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The chances that Sora, Sanji's mother, and Sora the hero are unrelated is close to zero. Unless Sora was one of Judge clone experiments (and he picked her name out of spite) OR she was a descendant of the actual hero (and he married her out of spite), it is likely the hero of the comic strip was named after her.
And neither of those "spite scenarios" makes much sense to me. Sora being a clone would make sense but I doubt he would name the Queen of the Germa Kingdom like their greatest enemy, he would be insulting his ancestors for petty reasons. Judge marrying someone out of spite would be in contrast with his goal of generating the most powerful enhanced humans ever, even though it would be fitting for a Romeo-Juliet parallel.
This being said, there are only two reasons someone would create a story where someone named Sora is the hero: either you hate Judge and Germa for what they did to Sora or you are Judge and you regret your action. Since Judge knows Morgans and he doesn't seem to resent him, I would exclude the former.
I also can't bring myself to accept Judge as fully evil. Sanji looks exactly like him in the future where things went wrong.
Deep down, I'm convinced Judge is a kind guy. A man who had to carry the full weight of his ancestors' dreams on his shoulders and lost everything -even himself- in the process.
Judge being the artist behind the comic strip would make for a great twist, imagine if drawing meant to Judge what cooking means to Sanji. What a beautiful and tragic story
And neither of those "spite scenarios" makes much sense to me. Sora being a clone would make sense but I doubt he would name the Queen of the Germa Kingdom like their greatest enemy, he would be insulting his ancestors for petty reasons. Judge marrying someone out of spite would be in contrast with his goal of generating the most powerful enhanced humans ever, even though it would be fitting for a Romeo-Juliet parallel.
This being said, there are only two reasons someone would create a story where someone named Sora is the hero: either you hate Judge and Germa for what they did to Sora or you are Judge and you regret your action. Since Judge knows Morgans and he doesn't seem to resent him, I would exclude the former.
I also can't bring myself to accept Judge as fully evil. Sanji looks exactly like him in the future where things went wrong.
Deep down, I'm convinced Judge is a kind guy. A man who had to carry the full weight of his ancestors' dreams on his shoulders and lost everything -even himself- in the process.
Judge being the artist behind the comic strip would make for a great twist, imagine if drawing meant to Judge what cooking means to Sanji. What a beautiful and tragic story
Also, sure circumstances might have led Judge to become who he is, but there are a lot of evil characters that have also had circumstances. Hell, even a demon like Doffy, lol. I think Judge being Sanji's evil future and Zeff being the good one is all the evidence you need to know that Judge is evil, tbh. Hell, I'd even go further to say that this mofo disowned and abandoned the hope that his wife Sora sacrificed her life for. Even if it was contrary to his ideals, the way he treated Sanji was atrocious, and imo there is no good in his heart, but I digress, we can disagree on this :p
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Power of Love
Woudn't be surprised if he gets it but I still don't really see the appeal of it in the context of Sanji powerups given all the other existing stuff other is doing with him in my opinion.
Also don't see folks mentioning it but even in the higlight of Garp's marine career which was god valley, there wasn't a single mention of PoL
At this point the only people capable of using it are Sanji and the Buccaneers.
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Don't think it's that complicated. I think that fictional story of Sora v Evil Vinsmokes mirrors Sora's fight against Judge's ideals. Hence why Oda named her Sora. Could be that a character name Sora existed in the past but I'm skeptical about that story tbh. It's in the WG's nature to spin a convenient narrative against their enemies.
Also, sure circumstances might have led Judge to become who he is, but there are a lot of evil characters that have also had circumstances. Hell, even a demon like Doffy, lol. I think Judge being Sanji's evil future and Zeff being the good one is all the evidence you need to know that Judge is evil, tbh. Hell, I'd even go further to say that this mofo disowned and abandoned the hope that his wife Sora sacrificed her life for. Even if it was contrary to his ideals, the way he treated Sanji was atrocious, and imo there is no good in his heart, but I digress, we can disagree on this :p
Power of Love
Woudn't be surprised if he gets it but I still don't really see the appeal of it in the context of Sanji powerups given all the other existing stuff other is doing with him in my opinion.
Also don't see folks mentioning it but even in the higlight of Garp's marine career which was god valley, there wasn't a single mention of PoL
At this point the only people capable of using it are Sanji and the Buccaneers.
Also, sure circumstances might have led Judge to become who he is, but there are a lot of evil characters that have also had circumstances. Hell, even a demon like Doffy, lol. I think Judge being Sanji's evil future and Zeff being the good one is all the evidence you need to know that Judge is evil, tbh. Hell, I'd even go further to say that this mofo disowned and abandoned the hope that his wife Sora sacrificed her life for. Even if it was contrary to his ideals, the way he treated Sanji was atrocious, and imo there is no good in his heart, but I digress, we can disagree on this :p
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Power of Love
Woudn't be surprised if he gets it but I still don't really see the appeal of it in the context of Sanji powerups given all the other existing stuff other is doing with him in my opinion.
Also don't see folks mentioning it but even in the higlight of Garp's marine career which was god valley, there wasn't a single mention of PoL
At this point the only people capable of using it are Sanji and the Buccaneers.
If anything he's just going to unlock Conq Haki due to "the power of love"
So, I was brainstorming some theories with some people these days about the wall "prophecy" thing.
They talk about "moon people" and "half moon people".
I have reasons to believe that the "moon people" are the civilization from the moon (from Enel's cover story) that came to earth in search for resources, since they depleted theirs. "Half moon" people would be halfbreeds.
The D. families come from these half moon people. As the D, while probably meaning something else (i have an idea that it's 2 different Ds: Dawn, for joyboy line, and Dusk, for Davy Jones), is shaped as an actual half moon.
More theories for that is that the kozuki were their allies, their symbol is a moon. the Minks were also allies, they get their Sulong abilities from the full moon, etc, etc.
Another reason for that is that, apparently, we've been focusing a lot on Half breeds. Giants with a bit of ancient giants blood, buccaneers being half giants, and Gaban's little speech about half breeds when talking about his own son.
So, it's possible that Sanji's plot goes into this direction. It doesn't necessarily mean he's a D., but it's very, VERY likely that his DJ comes from his special lineage as we used to theorize.
So it's just more fuel for this idea.
They talk about "moon people" and "half moon people".
I have reasons to believe that the "moon people" are the civilization from the moon (from Enel's cover story) that came to earth in search for resources, since they depleted theirs. "Half moon" people would be halfbreeds.
The D. families come from these half moon people. As the D, while probably meaning something else (i have an idea that it's 2 different Ds: Dawn, for joyboy line, and Dusk, for Davy Jones), is shaped as an actual half moon.
More theories for that is that the kozuki were their allies, their symbol is a moon. the Minks were also allies, they get their Sulong abilities from the full moon, etc, etc.
Another reason for that is that, apparently, we've been focusing a lot on Half breeds. Giants with a bit of ancient giants blood, buccaneers being half giants, and Gaban's little speech about half breeds when talking about his own son.
So, it's possible that Sanji's plot goes into this direction. It doesn't necessarily mean he's a D., but it's very, VERY likely that his DJ comes from his special lineage as we used to theorize.
So it's just more fuel for this idea.