Versus Battle Start of DBZ Piccolo vs the OP verse

ZenZu

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#67
Sure, but he can't interact with any of them so how does that matter? He isn't touching Enel, he isn't touching Ace and he isn't touching Caesar.
He can atomize the others with enough energy, can't do it with Kizaru he's pure massless energy :KizOut:
 
#69
GV has shown that one piece tiers peak at island level at best when it comes to DC. There’s nothing harming piccolo and like mentioned before he can manipulate water

even then logias are getting vaporized by Ki so
 
#70
GV has shown that one piece tiers peak at island level at best when it comes to DC. There’s nothing harming piccolo and like mentioned before he can manipulate water

even then logias are getting vaporized by Ki so
He can't manipulate water, he has no idea of their weakness and simply throwing water at them wouldn't do anything.

Light, fire, lightning and gasses can't be vaporized.
 
#71
The Logia are tricky. Even end of DBZ characters couldn't disintegrate Buu despite being easily able to tear him to bits. The problem was, they couldn't do it on a sufficiently small scale. Only the Genkidama did the job. When it comes to Kizaru, he isn't even "matter". He can reassemble from sub atomic particles (photons). Similar is true for the likes of Enel, Ace & co.

On the other hand, early DBZ characters durability is far from invincible. Yajirobe cut off great ape Vegeta's tail and later even sliced Vegeta's back with his Katana, and Vegeta is far superior to Piccolo. Heck, even the much weaker Nappa mauled a stronger version of Piccolo along with the other Z fighters.

So I guess if the Logias gang up on Piccolo, he might get in trouble. Not to mention that with Enel, we have at least one confirmed Logia capable of surviving in Space. I am sure same will be true for Kizaru. So even planet busting won't solve it.
 
#74
  1. Piccolo does not atomize
  2. Zero basis whatsoever that destroying a logia's entire form will stop them from regenerating
  3. Kizaru is photons which are sub-atomic anyway
I believe you can coat Kizaru with ki and move him however you want. Cell did the same thing with rocks — without destroying them or anything like that. He could have if he wanted to, but instead, he was able to move them freely as he pleased.





 

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#75
one major thing logia and admiral wankers fail to comprehend is real life science and physics do not apply to them, we've had 1 old man ray speed blitz Lizaru 2x in one showing, then was outpaced & speed blitzed by Kuma at least 8 times in that same arc, was speed blitz and was equalized in speed by Marco yet he is supposed to be fast as light or fastest in verse lmfao
 
#77
he got turned into a condom and then a pancake by luffy within 10mins and then in 5mins....

Kid Gohan obliterates Lizaru...
Luffy literally has toonforce which is a form of reality warping... Piccolo has neither of those.

Honestly, Piccolo doesn't even need that. He can erase their subatomic bodies with Ki lasers just fine, they can even erase other energy based attacks with no issue.

Sabo was scared shitless Mother Flame would hit him - he's made of fire, completely intangible. Like I said, Piccolo should have no issues killing them with Ki attacks.

we've had 1 old man ray speed blitz Lizaru 2x in one showing
What is wrong about that? Those feats are exclusive for One Piece characters, lol. Characters don't have to bust planets in order to keep up with light speed. There is no universal multiverse battle rule which says "You have to be on X level to keep up with light speed". You can scale characters in their respective tier, so it's easier to compare them against other characters from other verses instead of keep hearing "Well, this particular top tier just showed to destroy a door, so Grimmjow stomps" when the character in question scales to a star buster. That's how you use feats and scaling in this section.

So no, only because Luffy is using hax to touch Kizaru doesn't mean Krillin is suddenly able to touch Kizaru as well by the same means. Different verses, different rules - so we compare two different characters from their respective verse based on their feats, stats and abilities. That's how Itachi can quickly secure a victory against OP characters because none of them have resistance to his illusions even though his stats are far weaker. On the other hand, Itachi would get his ass wrecked against the illusionists in Hitman Reborn (they can turn their illusion into reality).

I believe you can coat Kizaru with ki and move him however you want. Cell did the same thing with rocks — without destroying them or anything like that. He could have if he wanted to, but instead, he was able to move them freely as he pleased.





Good point but it'd restrain Kizaru's movement and wouldn't deal direct damage, unless Piccolo throws Kizaru to the ocean which should secure the victory.
 
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