General & Others As bad as One Piece is currently it will never reach Fairy tail level bad

[grey matter]

Fairy Tail was fun because it was never to be taken seriously, like Dragon Ball or Bleach.

One Piece was goated enough to be taken seriously pre-TS, which is why it feels so ass now, because it's ass compared to what it was and sits right on the line of whether it should be taken seriously or not (probably not).

It could always be worse. It could be Boruto.

?? People do take Bleach seriously lol.

Even for FT, first half of Fairy Tail (i.e pre GMG) was genuinely good. People did take it seriously back in the days.
It was getting increasingly popular to the point people thought it would compete with the "big 3".

From GMG onwards, it was a free fall. Culminating in the atrocity known as Alverass arc.

Whichever OP fans who would like to shit on Wano, I encourage them to read the Alverass arc. Would develop a new appreciation for Wano lmao. Don't even get me started on the spinoff.

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Crazy ragebait

At least Hiro draw full fights and not just 1 clash into off-screen "fights"

Loda also draws extended fights when he wants to as well.

As shit as Wano was, Kaido vs Luffy is far longer and more detailed than anything in Fairy Tail. And even as bad as Kaido was, he's a better villain than anything FT produced since Mard Geer. Mard Geer was the last main villain of the series that was worth a damn.

 

[HeroesNZ]

?? People do take Bleach seriously lol.

Even for FT, first half of Fairy Tail (i.e pre GMG) was genuinely good. People did take it seriously back in the days.
It was getting increasingly popular to the point people thought it would compete with the "big 3".

From GMG onwards, it was a free fall. Culminating in the atrocity known as Alverass arc.

Whichever OP fans who would like to shit on Wano, I encourage them to read the Alverass arc. Would develop a new appreciation for Wano lmao. Don't even get me started on the spinoff.

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Loda also draws extended fights when he wants to as well.

As shit as Wano was, Kaido vs Luffy is far longer and more detailed than anything in Fairy Tail. And even as bad as Kaido was, he's a better villain than anything FT produced since Mard Geer. Mard Geer was the last main villain of the series that was worth a damn.

Y'all take Bleach seriously??

Bleach is like DBZ to me lmao that is not a serious show 😭 Maybe cos I only watched it like a year ago so I never had the nostalgia factor.

 

[Owl Ki]

I already made two "What if Kubo wrote" hypotheticals.

The writing is far worse, like how do I put this?

Imagine if Kaido was not only 100% the strongest physical Top Tier in the verse but also had a devil fruit ability that would allow him to pretty much take on every other Top Tier single handedly. An ability so broken, that no other hax abilities can work on or even touch him. Not even in-verse reality warpers can do anything to him.

Not only that but he has CoO so good that he can simultaneously see every single possible future at once with no downsides and the aforementioned devil fruit ability allows to reach into the future and manipulate events before they even happen.

Not only that but Kaido also has a bunch of insanely strong subordinates with absolutely bullshit abilities that break the verse. For example, one of his lesser subordinates is just a straight up reality warper that can imagine anything and will it into existence.

Not only that but Kaido's devil fruit allows him to absorb and take every single other ability of all of his bat-shit insane subordinates upon their demise, including the reality warper.

Not only that but Kaido legit found the One Piece and is now just straight up God because sure, why not?

Now, imagine that this version of Kaido (who has either personally beaten every other Top Tier or has had his subordinates stall all other Top Tiers) is defeated because Usopp shot a sea stone bullet at him (which his Future Sight should have seen from a mile away) and this allows Luffy to one shot with a nameless attack.

Then instead of seeing the aftermath of any of this, we are immediately catapulted about 10 years into the future when everyone is retired with zero context or reason.

That is how Wano would end if Kubo was writing it.

If Kubo wrote Hango:

>Shibashou would need all 4 Qin Great Generals + Shouheikan just to temporarily stall him. Is worth about 80 Houkens in power.
> Shin finds out that he is part Xiongnu+Baiyue+Quanrong+Martian. This has no affect on the plot whatsoever.
> Kitari has a girl talk with Kyoukai while taking a bath, proceeds to pin Kai and dangle her dripping mammaries in front of Kai's face to soothe Kai of her self doubt in pursuing her love interest with Shin.
> Riboku cackles about keikaku as Futei, the long lost childhood friend of Karyo Ten that was an undercover Qin double agent, impales his gut but Riboku totally already knew 10 years in advance that he was going to do that and one shots Futei, who achieved nothing.
> Shin has a chapter long inner monologue with his pet demon Rankai, gets power up, proceeds to just spam the same named attack he has been yelling out since Dakan Plains. Is now worth about 60 Houkens in power.
> Everyone that's not Shin or a GG is a useless ornament.
> Every Zhao character dies and all their power gets absorbed by Shiba. Shiba gets his bullsensical special ability back the precise moment that the one person that could defeat him is whooping his arse. Is now worth 800 Houkens in power.
>Ouhon temporarily joins Shibashou on account of being part Zhao. His "betrayal" ends up being a meaningless subplot with no pay off.
> Shin gets whacked by Shibashou but Ouhon comes in with a throwing spear made out of special anti-Shibashou metal that pinpricks Shiba and allows Shin to one shot with a nameless attack.
> Next chapter suddenly leaps 10 years into the future after unification with zero context.
> Still don't know whether important characters like Yotanwa and Moubu are actually alive after their fights, will need to read a spinoff novel years later to find confirm their fate.
> Series ends. Klassik Kubo.

 

[grey matter]

Y'all take Bleach seriously??

Bleach is like DBZ to me lmao that is not a serious show 😭 Maybe cos I only watched it like a year ago so I never had the nostalgia factor.

What do you mean you didn't take DBZ seriously lmao, that's the shit that got most of us here into anime.

I already made two "What if Kubo wrote" hypotheticals.

To be completely fair to Kubo, final arc wasn't really his fault.

It was going great until the publishers gave him a hard deadline of 20 chapters to wrap it up. It's sad.

 

[Owl Ki]

To be completely fair to Kubo, final arc wasn't really his fault.

It was going great until the publishers gave him a hard deadline of 20 chapters to wrap it up. It's sad.

If I was his publisher and I saw him do shit like unnecessarily extend the Shunsui Vs Barro fight into a family history lesson regarding tertiary character Nanao's clan and involving multiple Zanpakuto swords hiding a super secret cursed Zanpakuto mirror sword that is necessary to kinda but not really defeat Barro who gets off screened by Izuru anyway then I too would be inclined to beat Kubo's arse with a rolled up newspaper and tell him to hurry the fuck up already.

 

[MUUGEN]

Fairy Tail was fun because it was never to be taken seriously, like Dragon Ball or Bleach.

One Piece was goated enough to be taken seriously pre-TS, which is why it feels so ass now, because it's ass compared to what it was and sits right on the line of whether it should be taken seriously or not (probably not).

It could always be worse. It could be Boruto.

every sequel to the beginning of an anime/manga will always fall short: Naruto vs Shippuden, Death Note, Tokyo Ghoul->TGRe, Promised Neverland, AoT, MHA and many more. it happens and it is normal.

but yes fairy tail is amazing cause its caare free fun story with the overall story being friendship.

 

[MUUGEN]

To be completely fair to Kubo, final arc wasn't really his fault.

It was going great until the publishers gave him a hard deadline of 20 chapters to wrap it up. It's sad.

he gave it to himself.....

 

[HeroesNZ]

What do you mean you didn't take DBZ seriously lmao, that's the shit that got most of us here into anime.

When I say I don't take them seriously, I mean from a powerscaling perspective.

They're just fun anime/manga I enjoyed, I never gave af about debating the powerscale like I would for One Piece etc... because it's not serious. Asspulls galore.

Fairy Tail is in the same category as Bleach and DBZ in that regard, whereas Naruto, One Piece etc... are more serious enough to the point where I'd bother partaking in powerscaling discussions.

 

[ZenZu]

If I was his publisher and I saw him do shit like unnecessarily extend the Shunsui Vs Barro fight into a family history lesson regarding tertiary character Nanao's clan and involving multiple Zanpakuto swords hiding a super secret cursed Zanpakuto mirror sword that is necessary to kinda but not really defeat Barro who gets off screened by Izuru anyway then I too would be inclined to beat Kubo's arse with a rolled up newspaper and tell him to hurry the fuck up already.

Tbf Kubo is a legend. Bleach spoiler warning.

It takes balls to have all that buildup training the MC up, only to never reveal his PU because the Main Villain is simply that broken and it didn't change anything, and then to make Aizen the previous Main Villain, the key to defeating the current Main Villain because his ability was always that broken and it's the only one that can even remotely solve the Almighty.

That was the most Bleach shit ever, I had to laugh, but also mad respect because most authors would be too scared to hand the W to Aizen instead of their MC, ignoring such a broken ability.

My issue with the war arc is how we never get to see half the characters show out their full arsenal (this includes the MC but this is so outlandish that it's just funny).

 

[HA001]

Fairy tail was great

 

[Steven]

And even as bad as Kaido was, he's a better villain than anything FT produced since Mard Geer.

Yeah no,Kaido is a mess in terms of written.That character changed his goal every fucking chapter

He went from a "ruthless" Pirate to a Pirate were his Prison Chief have fucking dance partys.

Aldoron is a way better villain.You can understand his goal and his stance from HIS perspective.And Acnologia has more on-screen presence as any OP Character

 

[Paragorn]

I have my doubts lol

 

[Welkin]

Yeah but who really reads or watches Fairy Tail for the quality of it's writing

A lot of shit makes no sense but it has that old shonen feel where it's easy to fall in love with the characters and doesn't shy away from letting the characters interact with each other

Tons of fun slice of life moments, fights with good choreography, etc

The LOGIC isn't there at all but it's still enjoyable

 

[ZenZu]

Fairy tail was great

I always knew you were a gooner

 

[HA001]

I always knew you were a gooner

How

 

[BlackLegFring]

I already made two "What if Kubo wrote" hypotheticals.

That Kingdom bit is comedy gold. Thanks for the laugh!

 

[vikas]

FT in the end met the expectations it set.

 

[grey matter]

Yeah no,Kaido is a mess in terms of written.That character changed his goal every fucking chapter

He went from a "ruthless" Pirate to a Pirate were his Prison Chief have fucking dance partys.

Aldoron is a way better villain.You can understand his goal and his stance from HIS perspective.And Acnologia has more on-screen presence as any OP Character

I'm talking about the overall picture. Fight, narrative, etc.

In terms of pure character, Aldaron is better than Kaido (and Acnologia too).

In terms of on screen showing, it was sad, even if it was the best in spinoff (that's more on spinoff being dogshit)

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If I was his publisher and I saw him do shit like unnecessarily extend the Shunsui Vs Barro fight into a family history lesson regarding tertiary character Nanao's clan and involving multiple Zanpakuto swords hiding a super secret cursed Zanpakuto mirror sword that is necessary to kinda but not really defeat Barro who gets off screened by Izuru anyway then I too would be inclined to beat Kubo's arse with a rolled up newspaper and tell him to hurry the fuck up already.

I mean, let the man do his thing lol. Bleach was still massive and selling a lot. I think the finale would've been far far better than what we got if Kubo didn't get rushed.

 

[Uncle Van]

You want a real Fairy Tail example for shit writing? Natsu vs Zancrow(keep Akainu vs Ace in your mind as I explain).

Natsu is a fre dragon slayer and can eat, along with being immune, to flames equal or weaker than his. Halfway into the series, he faces Zancrow who is a fire GOD slayer, and we learn that there are hierarchies in slayer magic. Since God slayers>Dragon slayer, Zancrow was immune to Natsu's flames and could burn him.

How does Natsu win? Very simple. He "emptied his own magic", ate Zancrow's flames, combined it with his dragon flames, and one shot Zancrow. 1) Where did "empty your magic come from? And how come Natsu didn't get hurt more? 2) How could Natsu eat god flames when it established a chapter before that he cant eat them after trying? 3) How tf did Zancrow get hurt by flames hes immune to?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You want a real Fairy Tail example for shit writing? Natsu vs Zancrow(keep Akainu vs Ace in your mind as I explain).

Natsu is a fre dragon slayer and can eat, along with being immune, to flames equal or weaker than his. Halfway into the series, he faces Zancrow who is a fire GOD slayer, and we learn that there are hierarchies in slayer magic. Since God slayers>Dragon slayer, Zancrow was immune to Natsu's flames and could burn him.

How does Natsu win? Very simple. He "emptied his own magic", ate Zancrow's flames, combined it with his dragon flames, and one shot Zancrow. 1) Where did "empty your magic come from? And how come Natsu didn't get hurt more? 2) How could Natsu eat god flames when it established a chapter before that he cant eat them after trying? 3) How tf did Zancrow get hurt by flames hes immune to?

Are you saying Akainu vs Ace is just as bad as this, or better than it?