Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1166 Spoilers Discussion

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
If you want to bring up such lame points for portrayal, Marco was considered a yonko candidate. Marco and King humiliated an entire yonko crew by themselves. Kaido calls Doffy a weakling, and has Alber as his lifelong rhm.

All the YC1s have something special: Marco's regen, King's invincibility, Kuri being an all rounder. Even if I give Doffy the benefit of the doubt and put him above YC2s, he is comfortably below all the YC1s and its not debatable.


Just read 790 again. These are Doffy's ultimate attacks. Didnt do shit when Luffy didnt fully recover his haki yet. Marco eats Pizzaru's attacks for breakfast - Doffy's string attacks wont do shit to him lmao
I have him below them too. I'm talking about if Kat didn't exist. Given the things he has on paper portrayal wise (Breaking out of Kuzan's ice while Cracker, Jozu and BBP never shown it, using Jozu as a stool, being awakened and a conqueror while King and Marco are neither), I would be comfortable putting him in YC1 class.
 
Lol. While the Gorosei are indeed monsters, I meant the World Nobles being utterly depraved and capricious.
He’s also seen and met the kings of other nations and gets along with them

you forget in paper the WG is a democracy, the CDs and nobles are just a side effect he won’t have to deal with much. Even Poseidon after seeing the horrors of it sees more pros by being part of the WG
 
I have him below them too. I'm talking about if Kat didn't exist. Given the things he has on paper portrayal wise (Breaking out of Kuzan's ice while Cracker, Jozu and BBP never shown it, using Jozu as a stool, being awakened and a conqueror while King and Marco are neither), I would be comfortable putting him in YC1 class.
Every argument you can make "against" Doffy, you can make against Crocodile, and Crocodile has 2x Katakuri's bounty, and 600 mill more than Marco/King.

"Feat analysis" 90% of the time is a waste of time. What matters is portrayal: Doffy being 2nd highest bounty of OG Warlods, being Tsuru's rival, Oda making him "Joker" to fight alongside Kaido in Wano (prob putting him ~ Wano Law level).
 
Every argument you can make "against" Doffy, you can make against Crocodile, and Crocodile has 2x Katakuri's bounty, and 600 mill more than Marco/King.

"Feat analysis" 90% of the time is a waste of time. What matters is portrayal: Doffy being 2nd highest bounty of OG Warlods, being Tsuru's rival, Oda making him "Joker" to fight alongside Kaido in Wano (prob putting him ~ Wano Law level).
How come people hate on Mihawk for leeching off Shanks when Doffy fans need to constantly leech off Boa and Croc
 
He’s also seen and met the kings of other nations and gets along with them

you forget in paper the WG is a democracy, the CDs and nobles are just a side effect he won’t have to deal with much. Even Poseidon after seeing the horrors of it sees more pros by being part of the WG
Charlos was about to enslave Shirahoshi and only a fellow World Noble could stop it.

An individual kingdom has no pull against a whim of one of them.
 
Marco was considered a yonko candidate
There was a vacant spot and Marco with Whitebeard's crew was the best fit. That is before being squashed by Blackbeard, which demonstrated the difference.
Marco and King humiliated an entire yonko crew by themselves
Humiliating Big Mom is business as usual. Franky, Nico Robin, Usopp, all of them humiliated Meme.
Kaido calls Doffy a weakling
Kaido was butthurt. He also said beating a Shichibukai isn't a big deal. And Mihawk was one of the Shichibukai at that point.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
These same attacks can poke holes in Marco and make him use his stamina regenerating. That's the argument. Doffy doesn't need attack power, he just needs a solid attack rate while tanking Marco's attacks.
Boundman is faster and hits harder than Marco.

With his stamina tied to his regenerative capacity against haki imbued attacks, its only a matter of time until he exhausts himself against a city of strings.

@Nidai_Kitetsu like it or not, if Marco is 100 then Jozu is 95-98.
If Doflamingo can own one bum effortlessly, he can own the other too.
 
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