Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love

[Rumble]

Is Manta not Observation Haki then

Mantra is Observation Haki.

Ryuo is Armament Haki.

Power of Love is not any form Haki.

Oda explicity confirmed Garp didn't not use Haki to hurt Luffy here.

If Rouge and Kuma were capable of what they did because of PoL, I don't Haki had any part in Rouge's ability to carry Ace for as long as she did, or Kuma breaking free to return to Bonney.

Spoiler: ch 551

Spoiler: ch 1104

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji will get acoc. POL is gag thing.

 

[Doggo]

Sanji will get acoc. POL is gag thing.

After the Vegapunk page talking about Kuma? Not a chance.

 

[Rumble]

Sanji will get acoc. POL is gag thing.

Oda has made it pretty clear that it's not a gag.

 

[Royal Kick]

Sanji will get acoc. POL is gag thing.

Him kicking Kizaru's laser was a gag?

 

[Rumble]

Confirmed Power of Love users so far
- Garp
- Sanji

All but confirmed
- Rouge
- Kuma

Highly possible
- Luffy
- Roger
- Whitebeard
- Gaban
- Kuja Empresses

Reasonably possible
- Shanks
- Nami
- Chopper
- Sabo

Personal belief
- Hirikuk
- Zef

 

[MonsterKaido]

Him kicking Kizaru's laser was a gag?

It was sanji's hidden power of science

 

[Rumble]

It was sanji's hidden power of science

What about the time Garp punched Luffy and Oda confirmed it wasn't Haki but "love"?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

PoL will likely get a new name once oda actually expands on it. So far it just has been a catch all for why some characters can do impossible things like why Sanji can kick light or why Kuma can move without any thought

 

[MonsterKaido]

What about the time Garp punched Luffy and Oda confirmed it wasn't Haki but "love"?

Oda was trolling imo.

 

[Welkin]

The PoL argument is so tired man

One side believes it’s haki

The other side believes it’s a separate thing entirely

Neither side will ever agree with the other so what’s the point in wasting time arguing about it?

The whole goal of a debate is to change someone’s mind regarding a particular topic. No one is going to budge so it’s pointless

 

[Royal Kick]

PoL will likely get a new name once oda actually expands on it. So far it just has been a catch all for why some characters can do impossible things like why Sanji can kick light or why Kuma can move without any thought

Yeah, and I feel like the fact it doesn't actually have a name contributes to disagreements about Sanji's hidden abilities. Imo it's likely a buccaneer ability, WB was possibly part buccaneer and I wouldn't be surprised if he could use that power as well.

 

[Rumble]

PoL will likely get a new name once oda actually expands on it. So far it just has been a catch all for why some characters can do impossible things like why Sanji can kick light or why Kuma can move without any thought

Vegapunk said the thing. It's probably not going to change because it's catch-all nature is why it's called Power of Love in the first place.

Spoiler: ch 1104

It is a phenomenon distinct from Haki that defies biology and physics. I don't think Oda will ever explain it in great detail.

Oda was trolling imo.

C'mon, son. He answered a question about Haki with a denial.

How do you explain Sanji's shadow defying the power of Moria's Devil Fruit?

Spoiler: ch 451 + 453

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Vegapunk said the thing. It's probably not going to change because it's catch-all nature is why it's called Power of Love in the first place.

Spoiler: ch 1104

It is a phenomenon distinct from Haki that defies biology and physics. I don't think Oda will ever explain it in great detail.



C'mon, son. He answered a question about Haki with a denial.

How do you explain Sanji's shadow defying the power of Moria's Devil Fruit?

Spoiler: ch 451 + 453

If Oda doesn’t give it guidelines than PoL is poorly written. It needs limitations to make sense imo

 

[Rumble]

One side believes it’s haki

The other side believes it’s a separate thing entirely

Then it's a good thing we have the author on record making the distinction. The issue is that people want it to be another way.

And other examples that have no indication of Haki - like Rouge carrying Ace for so long, and Kuma returning to Bonney.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Vegapunk said the thing. It's probably not going to change because it's catch-all nature is why it's called Power of Love in the first place.

Spoiler: ch 1104

It is a phenomenon distinct from Haki that defies biology and physics. I don't think Oda will ever explain it in great detail.



C'mon, son. He answered a question about Haki with a denial.

How do you explain Sanji's shadow defying the power of Moria's Devil Fruit?

Spoiler: ch 451 + 453

We will see who stands corrected soon in elbaph

 

[Rumble]

If Oda doesn’t give it guidelines than PoL is poorly written. It needs limitations to make sense imo

PoL is messy and should be fleshed out more, but c'mon, bruva. This is Oda.

It's not like that's without precedent. Haki is mess and that shit dominates his work now.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

PoL is messy and should be fleshed out more, but c'mon, bruva.

It's not like that's without precedent. Haki is mess and that shit dominates his work now.

Haki is a mess but at least has guidelines tbh

 

[Rumble]

Haki is a mess but at least has guidelines tbh

It has guidelines, sure, but the lack of clarity is more in the depiction of application.

People understand the "rules" of Haki, but Oda isn't the best at providing clarity in his art, e.g. when Armament and Conqueror's Haki are combined.

I'd say ambiguity is all but an inherent plus for a concept such as the Power of Love. Oda should stay away from defining it too narrowly or peeling back layers with "rules" - it's not necessary.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Do sanji fans really want POL over acoc? He will be clowned forever if he doesn't gets acoc.