Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

same could be said about Johnny Depp. He was proven to be a victim of some abuse, with pictures to prove it

Yeah, she was violent. Women abused by men can end up becoming violent in order to fight their way out. And someone it's not enough to get out. But he is still a man and that's the core difference. He KNEW that society would with him, he knew that the justice would be with him, he KNEW that she was the one under domination, from the beginning of the abuse... to the the trial, Men know:

Amber Heard is a rich white woman with plenty of resources to spare, let’s not paint her as an average woman who couldn’t escape the abuse. The relationship was toxic

Abuse is not about money. It's not about capitalism. That precisely why getting rid of capitalism will not get us rid of sexual abuse. It's about patriarchy. It's about the social system of domination of men over women where men are benefiting from their domination:

And where women... are hammered into silence, ridiculized, called liars, harassed, belittled:

yes, and the defamation was that amber heard wasnt able to prove her allegations of physical abuse.

?!

For this case yes. Not for the reality of what happened. There were actually multiple trial. The first one (2020) ruled out the diffamation of Depp considering most the allegations of abuse as proven. The second trial ruled that both were guilty of defamation. In reality while Depp got 2 trials, heard got a third social one by the way she was ridiculized the incel community & internet.

 

[Zenos7]

And where women... are hammered into silence, ridiculized, called liars, harassed, belittled:

and you dont think that the way she behaved in the trial is the reason people ridiculize and belittle her?

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The first one (2020) ruled out the diffamation of Depp considering most the allegations of abuse as proven.

if they were proven then, how come they werent proven in this other trial?

im not sure you get how "innocent until proven guilty" works.

 

[NAMELESS]

and you dont think that the way she behaved in the trial is the reason people ridiculize and belittle her?

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if they were proven then, how come they werent proven in this other trial?

im not sure you get how "innocent until proven guilty" works.

He does, except when it doesn't fit his agenda. "All men are bastards."—Logiko, 2025.

 

[GodofDarkness]

He does, except when it doesn't fit his agenda. "All men are bastards."—Logiko, 2025.

Thought he quit the forum? Because he couldn't bully others into following his delusion beliefs?

 

[NAMELESS]

Thought he quit the forum? Because he couldn't bully others into following his delusion beliefs?

He did and came back once boredom got the best of him.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

@Logiko if you date a woman and that woman is an abuser who is trying to take advantage from you, how would you deal with this situation?

 

[Mathias]

@Logiko if you engage with a woman and that woman be an abuser who is trying to take advantage from you, how would you deal with this situation?

By leaving the room

 

[NikaInParis]

@Logiko if you date a woman and that woman be an abuser who is trying to take advantage from you, how would you deal with this situation?

Wrong premise - women CANNOT be abusers, patritard!

Logiko probably abused her via patriarchy osmosis simply by sharing the same living space.

 

[Zenos7]

He does, except when it doesn't fit his agenda. "All men are bastards."—Logiko, 2025.

To be extra fair to logiko, he didnt say that.

he did say though "all men are sexist" and "all men are trash".

but "all men are bastards" was not among the statements he made. Maybe you are thinking of "all cops are bastard" and mixed the two.

 

[Roo]

Yeah, she was violent. Women abused by men can end up becoming violent in order to fight their way out. And someone it's not enough to get out. But he is still a man and that's the core difference. He KNEW that society would with him, he knew that the justice would be with him.

quite the opposite was the case? Depp was defamed and society sided with heard until his case was televised and everything was shown?

 

[Mathias]

To be extra fair to logiko, he didnt say that.

he did say though "all men are sexist" and "all men are trash".

but "all men are bastards" was not among the statements he made. Maybe you are thinking of "all cops are bastard" and mixed the two.

Thank you for putting everything back into its context

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

To be extra fair to logiko, he didnt say that.

he did say though "all men are sexist" and "all men are trash".

did he seriously say that

 

[Roo]

To be extra fair to logiko, he didnt say that.

he did say though "all men are sexist" and "all men are trash".

but "all men are bastards" was not among the statements he made. Maybe you are thinking of "all cops are bastard" and mixed the two.

As a black man it's heart warming to know even leftist men think I am trash

 

[Zenos7]

Thank you for putting everything back into its context

No problem mate, always just trying to help <3

 

[Mathias]

did he seriously say that

Because he believes that everyone has bias so in the end there are different shades of sexism. So he said all men are sexist.

I’m not sure he said trash himself but he defended women who said that all men are trash.

 

[Zenos7]

As a black man it's heart warming to know even leftist men think I am trash

maybe you being black and being a man cancel each other out and you are not trash. but who knows, gotta wait for some more logiko wisdom

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko if you date a woman and that woman be an abuser who is trying to take advantage from you, how would you deal with this situation?

I would stop dating this woman, it's really not a big dilemma. Now, it would be more dangerous situation if I was in love, but in this case, I'm a man, I do not face the same social barrier, and can get away more easily.

and you dont think that the way she behaved in the trial is the reason people ridiculize and belittle her?

Absolutely not. What you witnessed on the internet around heard was a strategic communication process that started in the incel and masculinist groups and ended up becoming mainstream by the lacks of social protections against this type of rethoric. What you saw with Heard is what can happen to ANY women. We have a streamer (woman) in France who is getting the same treatment at the moment.

if they were proven then, how come they werent proven in this other trial?

im not sure you get how "innocent until proven guilty" works.

Because that's not the same facts. What was proven false are the sentences of amber heard, not the actual reality of what happened.

As for "innocent until proven guilty". This only applies for courts and legality. Just like we can say that there is a genocide happening without seeing the trial, we can take the side of Heard in this case.

Thought he quit the forum? Because he couldn't bully others into following his delusion beliefs?

Damn, you are late to the party

Depp was defamed and society sided with heard until his case was televised and everything was shown?

Dude... scan the internet from the ramification of the trial, you will see what happened. Depp got a boost of popularity while heard was ridiculized, laughed at, harassed, completely destroyed by internet.

did he seriously say that

Yup, all men are trash = all men are sexist. Pretty mild statement if I'm being honest, it's not even radical

 

[Zenos7]

Absolutely not. What you witnessed on the internet around heard was a strategic communication process that started in the incel and masculinist groups and ended up becoming mainstream by the lacks of social protections against this type of rethoric. What you saw with Heard is what can happen to ANY women. We have a streamer (woman) in France who is getting the same treatment at the moment.

no person i know IRL has any ties to incel or masculinist groups and they all thought that amber was fucking insane in the trial and made fun of her.

none of them is conservative/right wing either.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I would stop dating this woman, it's really not a big dilemma. Now, it would be more dangerous situation if I was in love, but in this case, I'm a man, I do not face the same social barrier, and can get away more easily.



Absolutely not. What you witnessed on the internet around heard was a strategic communication process that started in the incel and masculinist groups and ended up becoming mainstream by the lacks of social protections against this type of rethoric. What you saw with Heard is what can happen to ANY women. We have a streamer (woman) in France who is getting the same treatment at the moment.



Because that's not the same facts. What was proven false are the sentences of amber heard, not the actual reality of what happened.

As for "innocent until proven guilty". This only applies for courts and legality. Just like we can say that there is a genocide happening without seeing the trial, we can take the side of Heard in this case.



Damn, you are late to the party



Dude... scan the internet from the ramification of the trial, you will see what happened. Depp got a boost of popularity while heard was ridiculized, laughed at, harassed, completely destroyed by internet.


Yup, all men are trash = all men are sexist. Pretty mild statement if I'm being honest, it's not even radical

That includes you
Also that sounds like a logical fallacy lmao

 

[Zenos7]

Also that sounds like a logical fallacy lmao

no it just means you dont understand the logiko wisdom.

repent and come to the light