Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

i think goofy nika powers will be somewhat effective

and that's a last minute hail mary type shit. brook waking gunko up will happen when goofy and co are struggling/getting their shits kicked in by gunkimu. that just adds to my point.

he's down and out. he's done for the arc.

he won't

sham ain't gonna be defeated in elfab. him coming back would mean he has to. so ain't happening.
You still arent addressing the blatant fact that Luffy does and will not punch in a victims face, which Gunko is. This is not a legitimate fight, of which Luffy has one every arc, including Egghead where he does exactly this to Saturn.

And I cant see why Shamrock cant lose here. Luffy is a Yonko. Before him are very few people who can stand up to him.
Shamrock does not need to last longer than an arc. Many antagonists do not.
 
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Whitebeard is also a huge idiot. He’s worse than Oden, but before these flashbacks he was considered one of the best-written characters. Yet Whitebeard sacrificed tens of thousands of his men to save Ace, Roger’s son. And the worst part is that he was old, sick, and weakened, knowing he was no longer the strongest, and still didn’t ask anyone for help — not even Roger’s pirates, who could have carried that cause with him since Ace was their captain’s son. But Whitebeard didn’t do any of that. He’s even more of an idiot than Oden. But no, only Oden gets called an idiot, when in reality Oden didn’t do anything wrong at all.
Whitebeard would've succeeded if Ace didn't go back to fight like an idiot, Whitebeard also didn't have time to go around the world asking for help and his men all came willingly, Ace's execution was in the near future.

Oden had the luxury of time and also at that moment he probably had an advantage when it comes to power, but instead of fighting and winning, he choose to risk the fate of his country on the words of criminals that couldn't believe how gullible and naive he is.

As I said, if my whole town and I were captured by a notorious criminal and he told you that he'd free me if you dance like a clown for 5 years, please don't choose to do that and let my family and friends suffer for ages, at that point I'd consider my life is over anyway.

If we're going to talk about hypocrisy, I think the only reason you defend Oden's brainless actions is because Kaido values him so highly, you would think he's a loser if Kaido said he was trash.
 
You still arent addressing the blatant fact that Luffy does and will not punch in a victims face, which Gunko is. This is not a legitimate fight, of which Luffy has one every arc, including Egghead where he does exactly this to Saturn.

And I cant see why Shamrock cant lose here. Luffy is a Yonko. Before him are very few people who can stand up to him.
Shamrock does not need to last longer than an arc. Many antagonists do not.
You mean the same goofy who used ally robot move?

Or the same one that freed heinous criminals from impel down?

He literally punched out Bellamy. He also punched put franky in chopper's body when he went berserk.

He not some saint lol


Shame was shown in the op race top 12 panel. He's relevant for end of op.
 
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