Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
So you formally accept that Big Mom > Shiki the databook and movie promo merchant?
Nah this isn't nearly enough for that. Big Mom is a Yonkou at the end of the day, there's a limit to how much you can shit on her. We know from her own mouth she sees WB > herself. This isn't shocking news that the Yonkou started to run the seas, we already know the context behind a lot of Kaidou's journey for example. At the end of the day he spent his 30s and 40s hiding in Wano, his one challenge was Oden and he was about to get clapped. Let's not overblow this. This is just a generic statement.
 
This would have never happened if people stopped putting Silver Axe above Big Mom. Oda saw that nonsense and immediately dunked on Shiki, while confirming that Big Mom and Kaido are portrayed on the same level as Primebeard and Roger.

Never slander Trafalgoat or his opponents, let this be a lesson.
 
Pay attention to Dragon's trip to the East Sea
He and Saint Shanks traveled to the East Sea at the same time and were present at Roger's execution at the same time, and Dragon was the one Saint Shanks saved in GV
The relationship between these two people is deeper than we think
Dragon prolly told him about his mom and garlic killing her

If Saint Shank told that to sham, I could see him eventually betraying the wg too
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
This would have never happened if people stopped putting Silver Axe above Big Mom. Oda saw that nonsense and immediately dunked on Shiki, while confirming that Big Mom and Kaido are portrayed on the same level as Primebeard and Roger.

Never slander Trafalgoat or his opponents, let this be a lesson.
You will regret saying this when you see Shiki being name dropped soon.
 
In fact, we see Saint Shanks in Chapter 0 looking much younger than a 24 year old looking for a crew of his own, and also based on the pages Oda designed for the Red movie, Saint Shanks had no scars on his face when he formed his crew. Oda literally destroyed the timeline. Saint Shanks lived with Garling for nearly 7 years, and we thought he only went to MG for a short visit. The discrepancy is greater than I thought.
Unless Saint Shanks was secretly looking for a crew for himself, which doesn't make sense.
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1. Film Red isnt canon nor are the scenes for it.

2. We have no idea how long he was a god knight, but we also have zero idea when he formed his crew. Canonically nothing in this story implies Saint Shanks formed his crew 20 years ago. I was just guessing. If he only finds them 14 years ago then thats not unheard of. Its never stated when Yasopp abandons his family. Its just at "least" when Usopp is younger than 8, aka 10 years ago since he meets Luffy.

And he looks very similar in Chapter 1082 and Chapter 0 lol? He's the same age regardless of how Oda draws him

 
St Saint Shanks 😂
"Roger WB Kaido Linlin" conquer the sea
:finally:
Shiki who?
It was already heavily implied how the OG Yonko are all rivals and rule the sea for decades. Nobody is that far ahead or way beneath the others.
But some folk would still say "mu muh Kaido and Big mom never rivals to WB..... they were only able to rival weaken old WB and still said to be weaker than old sick WB"
:catcry:
 
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