Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

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Literally, all Kishimoto had to do was "I hate the world because I was just a kid who shouldn't have been in a war and was horribly mangled" instead of being some creepy weirdo who pined for a girl before his balls even dropped.
Ngl, in retrospect, Obito being the masked man is a pretty shitty reveal in general, even beyond the Rin stuff. The masked man came off wise, someone who´s been around the block and seen shit, he told us about old lore. Not someone as old as Kakashi and Gai, and almost a decade younger then his subordinate Nagato. Maybe it doesn´t have to be Madara someone else, but it would have been nice if he was old enough to remember Madara, without the weird plot of Madara living in a cave
 
@ZenZu What is One Piece’s greatest strength over Naruto
World building and side character development that’s all. Naruto absolutely bitchmogs in every other category lmfao
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Anyone watched Stranger Things 5 yet? My exam just finished lol ima binge this. Gonna be a peak fri night
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Ngl, in retrospect, Obito being the masked man is a pretty shitty reveal in general, even beyond the Rin stuff. The masked man came off wise, someone who´s been around the block and seen shit, he told us about old lore. Not someone as old as Kakashi and Gai, and almost a decade younger then his subordinate Nagato. Maybe it doesn´t have to be Madara someone else, but it would have been nice if he was old enough to remember Madara, without the weird plot of Madara living in a cave
It should have been Sasuke from the future
 
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Imagine a second Itachi plot twist where he happens to actually be an evil psychopath and Sasuke simply lied to his past version to make him turn good or whatever because Naruto in the future becomes a trash hokage

Would be impossible to write well but it’d be such a fun story to read no matter how badly written it is. Would be far better than the WA which was badly written AND not enjoyable for most of it.
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Love Deidara but no shot he's cooler than Hidan. The swag on Hidan can only be matched by Zabuza...maybe.
Hidan has less swag than Kakuzu
 
Ngl, in retrospect, Obito being the masked man is a pretty shitty reveal in general, even beyond the Rin stuff. The masked man came off wise, someone who´s been around the block and seen shit, he told us about old lore. Not someone as old as Kakashi and Gai, and almost a decade younger then his subordinate Nagato. Maybe it doesn´t have to be Madara someone else, but it would have been nice if he was old enough to remember Madara, without the weird plot of Madara living in a cave
It should’ve been Madara controlling Obito’s body
 
@ZenZu What is One Piece’s greatest strength over Naruto
Giving my own cents here.

Fleshing out characters. Of course, with such a huge world like in OP, you will have lots and lots of NPCs, so to speak, but even lesser side characters feel more alive.
Kishimoto threw the likes of Kurenai, Kiba, Tenten and Shino into the bin for example despite having a smaller playing field.
I feel like Gaimon is more of a character than them.
 

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I will never forgive Oda
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@soupongo @ZenZu @TheAncientCenturion Give Kabuto some credit for not ever falling for Naruto’s Talk no Jutsu bullshit. It took golden boy Itachi using an asspull jutsu that literally groundhog day’s you into accepting a talk no jutsu
TBH............................................. I wish Kabuto fought Naruto, those 2 had a deeper relationship throughout the manga
 
@soupongo @ZenZu @TheAncientCenturion Give Kabuto some credit for not ever falling for Naruto’s Talk no Jutsu bullshit. It took golden boy Itachi using an asspull jutsu that literally groundhog day’s you into accepting a talk no jutsu
Eh, depends.
Izanagi is a staple of Shintoism like Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi and its already a broken ass Genjutsu.
Its the kind where there is one, the other naturally follows. They are basically the creator gods of Japan, essentially the highest physical beings in Shintoism. Only 5 gods are higher than them and they the formless ones who popped up with the Universe like Koto Amatsukami. Where there is Izanagi, there is Izanami. Thats his wife, his sister, his arch nemesis, gods of life and death. The most important gods.

Not sure thats such an asspull. It had to come.
 
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