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How you can read this manga and don´t get how these two are Luffy main opponents aside Imu?

Alone the fact Luffy clearly reminds Akainu name tells a lot.
Akainu and Teach are Luffy main opponents, they are the peak of all strongest characters.
The sooner you guys accept it, so better it will be.
Honestly this panel alone kills all of Akainu downplay. The man will be a Luffy's main opponent, people can cry about it all they want but it is what it is.
 
How you can read this manga and don´t get how these two are Luffy main opponents aside Imu?

Alone the fact Luffy clearly reminds Akainu name tells a lot.
Akainu and Teach are Luffy main opponents, they are the peak of all strongest characters.
The sooner you guys accept it, so better it will be.
Oda has retconned this. There are lots of panels saying luffy will beat Big mom and that never happened. Luffy vs akainu will happen but akainu won't be an arc boss.
 
Oda has retconned this. There are lots of panels saying luffy will beat Big mom and that never happened. Luffy vs akainu will happen but akainu won't be an arc boss.
Big Mom didn´t kill Luffy's brother, he did´t forced him to take a timeskip to get stronger.
The fact he had such a reaction when it was about Akainu name, tells a lot.
Akainu is leading the strongest orgination.
Stronger than the Holy Knights, he is the leader of guys who rivals or surpass Gorosei powerlvl...

The stronger the guys who lead are, the stronger you are.
 
Big Mom didn´t kill Luffy's brother, he did´t forced him to take a timeskip to get stronger.
The fact he had such a reaction when it was about Akainu name, tells a lot.
Akainu is leading the strongest orgination.
Stronger than the Holy Knights, he is the leader of guys who rivals or surpass Gorosei powerlvl...

The stronger the guys who lead are, the stronger you are.
BM = Akainu
Kaido = Imu - More imp bigger enemy

Its similar thing imo



There are way more panels of luffy saying he will defeat BM directly btw.
 
Oda has retconned this. There are lots of panels saying luffy will beat Big mom and that never happened. Luffy vs akainu will happen but akainu won't be an arc boss.
He didnt "retcon" anything lol. Luffy makes proclamations all the time that arent always meant to happen. We "know" now in hindsight he was never defeating all Yonko, but he is surpassing them all direcly and indirectly.

Luffy has never made any proclamations fighting Akainu. We know they are fighting by virtue of what Akainu has done to Luffy in this story. Kaido was fought because he was a direct aggressor of Luffy's friends for many arcs. In lieu of having Luffy fight Big Mom, Oda used Katakuri as that stopgap. There's nothing "wrong" how that is presented, he doesnt want to be redundant. His allies defeated her in the end.

The fact that Luffy half assed fought Kizaru just proves that point, because it means that Akainu wont "feel" redundant. Defeating him is catharsis for Ace. Defeating him ends his era of extremism in marine ranks. These have purpose in this story as we've seen.

Its ridiculous that you guys think Akainu out of anyone wont have his own arc focus.
 
He didnt "retcon" anything lol. Luffy makes proclamations all the time that arent always meant to happen. We "know" now in hindsight he was never defeating all Yonko, but he is surpassing then all direcly and indirectly.

Luffy has never made any proclamations fighting Akainu. We know they are fighting by virtue of what Akainu has done to Luffy in this story. Kaido was fought because he was a direct aggressor of Luffy's friends for many arcs. In lieu of having Luffy fight Big Mom, Oda used Katakuri as that stopgap. There's nothing "wrong" how that is presented, he doesnt want to be redundant.

The fact that Luffy half assed fought Kizaru just proves that point, because it means that Akainu wont "feel" redundant. Defeating him is catharsis for Ace. Defeating him ends his era of extremism in marine ranks. These have purpose.

Its ridiculous that you guys think Akainu out of anyone wont have his own arc focus.
BM = Akainu
Kaido = Imu - More imp bigger enemy

Its similar thing imo



There are way more panels of luffy saying he will defeat BM directly btw.
This is how I see it. Akainu will have a short fight with luffy. If you think akainu is main big boss thats fine. We shall see who stands corrected :BigW:
 
This is how I see it. Akainu will have a short fight with luffy. If you think akainu is main big boss thats fine. We shall see who stands corrected :BigW:
So you didnt read my comment. Luffy making proclamations is literally the point Im talking about. He has never made that proclamation for Sakazuki so why are you using Linlin as an example here? Hell, he's never directly made that proclamation for Teach and doesnt even know Imu exists, yet you know why he'll fight those 2 narratively.

This is my point, the same reasons those 2 are being set up for fights, you can make similar cases for Shamrock and Akainu especially
 
So you didnt read my comment. Luffy making proclamations is literally the point Im talking about. He has never made that proclamation for Sakazuki so why are you using Linlin as an example here? Hell, he's never directly made that proclamation for Teach and doesnt even know Imu exists, yet you know why he'll fight those 2 narratively.

This is my point, the same reasons those 2 are being set up for fights, you can make similar cases for Shamrock and Akainu especially
Making proclamations < Your head canon interpretation of an possible event? :seriously:
 
Making proclamations < Your head canon interpretation of an possible event? :seriously:
No im using very explicit facts in the story to understand why these characters will be fought in it. You are using Luffy's proclamations as the opposing argument lmao so what are you trying to say here?


Rhetorical question: How do you and 99% of readers know Luffy will fight Teach and Imu if he does not make these proclamations about either character?

These are the same reasons I argue Akainu and Shamrock will be fought, moreso Akainu because he literally kills the MCs brother and scars him.

Why are you so overtly biased against Sakazuki here? It makes fundamentally no sense.
 
No im using very explicit facts in the story to understand why these characters will be fought in it. You are using Luffy's proclamations as the opposing argument lmao so what are you trying to say here?


Rhetorical question: How do you and 99% of readers know Luffy will fight Teach and Imu if he does not make these proclamations about either character?

These are the same reasons I argue Akainu and Shamrock will be fought, moreso Akainu because he literally kills the MCs brother and scars him.

Why are you so overtly biased against Sakazuki here? It makes fundamentally no sense.
His Long Ass and emphasized backstory with blackbeard
 
No im using very explicit facts in the story to understand why these characters will be fought in it. You are using Luffy's proclamations as the opposing argument lmao so what are you trying to say here?


Rhetorical question: How do you and 99% of readers know Luffy will fight Teach and Imu if he does not make these proclamations about either character?

These are the same reasons I argue Akainu and Shamrock will be fought, moreso Akainu because he literally kills the MCs brother and scars him.

Why are you so overtly biased against Sakazuki here? It makes fundamentally no sense.
Imu is the tyrannical god and nika/joyboy's main opponent. He is akainu's boss indirectly and will fight in same arc as akainu does. Its similar to Kaido-BM situation. Marines and WG are tied to each other.
 
His Long Ass and emphasized backstory with blackbeard
And so I pose to you the same question about Sakazuki, who killed Ace, scarred Luffy and nearly made him give up his dream.

Imu is the tyrannical god and nika/joyboy's main opponent. He is akainu's boss indirectly and will fight in same arc as akainu does. Its similar to Kaido-BM situation. Marines and WG are tied to each other.
No its similar to what has already happened with Kaido and his subordinates.
Literally Caesar and Doflamingo work for him and under his umbrella of pirates. Hell, go further back. Luffy fought Mr. 5 and Mr. 3 before Crocodile.

Just because Akainu gets separate focus has no bearing on what happens to Imu and vice versa. Same reason Shamrock may be fought. All 3 characters lead different factions in the government

Thats like saying Lucci shouldnt have been fought in the past, because he's one arm of a wider government, nor Magellan. Its an argument that doesnt hold water at all
 
And so I pose to you the same question about Sakazuki, who killed Ace, scarred Luffy and nearly made him give up his dream.


No its similar to what has already happened with Kaido and his subordinates.
Literally Caesar and Doflamingo work for him and under his umbrella of pirates. Hell, go further back. Luffy fought Mr. 3 before Crocodile.

Just because Akainu gets separate focus has no bearing on what happens to Imu and vice versa. Same reason Shamrock may be fought. All 3 characters lead different factions in the government

Thats like saying Lucci shouldnt have been fought in the past, because he's one arm of a wider government, nor Magellan. Its an argument that doesnt hold water at all
Marineford was his only encounter with the Admiral lol
 
Luffy & Big Mom /Luffy & Akainu got little to do with each other. In the end Big Mom was just another big fish standing in Luffy's path while Akainu is the guy that mudered his brother, scarred him and temporarily broke his will to the point hearing the guy's name is enough for Luffy to be gritting his teeth while holding his throbbing scar. Narrative wise Luffy vs Akainu is extremely solid as a fight, I'd argue it is as solid as Luffy vs Blackbeard ( funnily Jinbe presented their ascension to power as the two big things that happened during the past two years to Luffy).
 
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