Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1168 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

That's prolly what happened but it's make sense if Imu has some sorta hold over his contractors.
I mean, he's able to take over Gunko and Saturn for example so has control over their bodies so him being able to snuff them out with the snap of a finger or cause them harm seems feasible.

I feel like the route oda is going with is:
Deep sea pact - Imu is able to control your body against your will
Abyss Pact - Imu is able to fully take over your mind and body

Idk if Imu can kill them as he pleases beyond just taking away the immortality, but he seems like he can control them easily enough.

 

[Flower]

Luffy Nikafying Shamrock to free himwould make sense from how powers have been presented. Maybe Dragon witnessing the freeing of Shamrock would serve as resolving Dragon’s failure/guilt.

I appreciate someone talking story not power levels.

I just think it’s so sad. It‘s like Sanji‘s brothers. Their moms wanted to save all of their respective children, but only one could be saved. But the Vinsmokes have gotten a bit nicer since and I hope Shamrock will be the same. He could have been a good guy, too, and it felt wrong if he got destroyed for a life he didn’t even get to choose.

 

[kom5]

Fisher Tiger had great doubts about how he was handling things

and he knew Otohime way was the right way

His inner conflict was also why he was the best

At least he was skeptical unlike Harald who was fine that CDs have slaves but Xebec was criminal.

 

[Flower]

Abyss Pact - Imu is able to fully take over your mind and body

This would make Gunko an Abyss Pact holder which I don’t really think tbh. Since he suppressed her memories and all. Tbh I feel Brook was also a HK in the past. Though one with a Shallow Sea contract. Gunko seems to just be a CD, and I doubt he‘d otherwise have any connection to her.

 

[MarineHQ]

 

[Cruxroux]

All of Warcurys feats are Imu powers. Imus haki, Imus demon form, all of it.

Imu doesn't give you haki, where did you get that from?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

We find out that Harald secretly sealed his Haki in Gunko's panties, and told them to untie the knot only when the time is right

Shamrock has his own Cereal Brand Called "Lucky Shamrocks" which is incredibly popular amongst Celestial Dragon women.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wait i remember that there is no confirmation the number 13 being the total of 13 Holy Knight. but based on Viz last chapter, the mark that were given by "God" or Imu was the Depths Covenant and Abyssal Covenant. Those two mark were reserved for 13 choosen individuals.
If Gorosei were part of 13 individuals, then we gon had 8 Holy Knight which is pretty much All the presumably Holy Knight on GV which are :

For Reminder only 7 got confirmed as Holy Knight at GV.
1. Gargling
2. Sommers
3. Maffey
4. Beautiful Lady with Long Sword? and Armor like Gargling
5. The Prince Ghibli looking ahh dude / Gas mask with number 46 ( 50/50 since they are the only one missing from the intro panel )
6. The ManMayer Riffle Girl
7. The Cool Looking Dude with Scythe and Deer Skull
8. The Ogre looking dude (possibly the transformation of one of the number 5).

we know that Gunko's mark at GV is like Harald so she is not the Holy Knight, i believe the number 5 that i assumed, one of them probably like Gunko especially the Prince Ghibli.
But if The Gorosei are not concluded, then we still had 4 people missing. not including current holy knight like Kllingham and Gunko of course since i want to count it 13 from GV especially we got the 13 number confirmation after GV.

Edit : i forgot to include this, when we see Garling with Harald his title was Commander of Holy Knight, but when we see him at Mjosgard executions he was Supreme Commander of Holy Knight while Shamrock is the Commander of Holy Knight. So at that time there is Supreme Commander above Garling.....

I think it’s just there are 13 deals with Imu total. Since Ghibli and Mask weren’t in the double spread I’m assuming that’s the human forms of Moffey and the big yeti looking dude

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This would make Gunko an Abyss Pact holder which I don’t really think tbh. Since he suppressed her memories and all. Tbh I feel Brook was also a HK in the past. Though one with a Shallow Sea contract. Gunko seems to just be a CD, and I doubt he‘d otherwise have any connection to her.

She has to be. She hasn’t aged in 38 years

 

[RayanOO]

Lmao « I don’t need to use ninjutsu against that one »

Danzo should have outright killed her …..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Imu doesn't give you haki, where did you get that from?

Every mention of their haki comments how weird it feels and since it’s confirmed Imu strengthens the pact holders it’s pretty obvious why oda always specifies how weird the gorosei haki feels.

 

[Flower]

I think it’s just there are 13 deals with Imu total. Since Ghibli and Mask weren’t in the double spread I’m assuming that’s the human forms of Moffey and the big yeti looking dude

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She has to be. She hasn’t aged in 38 years

Hmmmm…in this case there‘s 6 Abyss Pact holders and 7 Deep Sea Pact people 🤔.

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The issue I have with this is Gunko feels like a lower rank than Shamrock and Sommers and Sommers hasn‘t actually aged much since GV either tbh. Perhaps they all just stop aging when Imu wants them to regardless of Pact type?

 

[Paperchampion23]

This would make Gunko an Abyss Pact holder which I don’t really think tbh. Since he suppressed her memories and all. Tbh I feel Brook was also a HK in the past. Though one with a Shallow Sea contract. Gunko seems to just be a CD, and I doubt he‘d otherwise have any connection to her.

I mean, unlike literally every other Knight she doesnt age, which is exactly like Gorosei. Garling and Sommers have aged 40 years as Knights

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Hmmmm…in this case there‘s 6 Abyss Pact holders and 7 Deep Sea Pact people 🤔.

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The issue I have with this is Gunko feels like a lower rank than Shamrock and Sommers and Sommers hasn‘t aged a day since GV either tbh. Perhaps they all just stop aging when Imu wants them to regardless of Pact type?

Sommers has aged a lot since GV. Just his design last chapter during the 20 years flashback looks much younger than his current self.

And Gunko may just be a gods knight along with Sommers but she’s also Imus attendant and was hand picked to become a blade of god by Imu himself. She’s an outlier in all this imo.

 

[Shiroyru]

So Loki only got a 2.6B bounty for killing Larald @sanjikun

 

[Cruxroux]

Every mention of their haki comments how weird it feels and since it’s confirmed Imu strengthens the pact holders it’s pretty obvious why oda always specifies how weird the gorosei haki feels.

Yea just like sanji having Zoro/Luffy parallel of
" Ryuma/Nika " and " Mihawk/Shanks "
Ofc pretty obvious for you.

 

[Flower]

Sommers has aged a lot since GV. Just his design last chapter during the 20 years flashback looks much younger than his current self.

And Gunko may just be a gods knight along with Sommers but she’s also Imus attendant and was hand picked to become a blade of god by Imu himself. She’s an outlier in all this imo.

I want her backstory already. It‘s also Brook‘s and we barely know anything about him yet despite him being a straw hat.

 

[Juanpiz]

I want her backstory already. It‘s also Brook‘s and we barely know anything about him yet despite him being a straw hat.

We know he wants to meet a depressed whale again

 

[Boiroy]

Loki for killing rock's equivalent got 2.6 b

I doubt if there's any non Yonko character who can surpass that just for strength alone 😳😳😳

 

[Juanpiz]

So Loki only got a 2.6B bounty for killing Larald @sanjikun

What nice sources do you have for this?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I want her backstory already. It‘s also Brook‘s and we barely know anything about him yet despite him being a straw hat.

Agreed. When Brook fees her soul from Imu I assume we’ll get a half chapter flashback.