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I fully believe at this point, now that we know from Imu/Rocks that Curses are real in this series, that:

1. Love Sickness is partially a curse caused by Imu. Evil incel Demon obsessed with an island full of women who hate men, named after the chick who he can't get over from the Void Century? Yeah, Imu cursed Amazon Lily

2. All the maternal death in One Piece is also Curse based. Same way Lily died to protect Harry from Voldemort's Curse. The Mom's are absorbing the Curse meant to kill their children, the Ds.

Lili was the original "mother" who died of heartbreak.

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Is Buggy Lili's kid from the fucking Void Century sent to the future by Toki???

For so long I've had theories about Imu stealing Lili's body. But, if Lili and Joy Boy were in love... and Imu hated that, and wanted to be with Lili...

Vegapunk told us "Every Devil Fruit is a possibility for human evolution that someone desired!"



So, whoever created the Ope Ope no Mi is a crazy psychopathic freak.
-Immortality at the cost of death of the surgeon
-Personality transplant
-Removing hearts
-Cutting people up and putting them back together in freaky ass ways
-The ability to electrocute peoples insides with radiation

Law despised the entire world, and wanted to destroy it.

I think the Ope Ope was Nerona Imu's Fruit they created to rule the world.

Nerona Imu tricked Joy Boy, and swapped bodies with him.
-Imu tries to get with Lili in Joy Boy's body, but she rejects him, realizing it's not him.
-Zunesha and others got fooled, and accepted Imu's orders after he took over JB
-This explains the Giant Hat in Marijoa



Why does Imu have Joy Boy's have? Because Imu is in Joy Boy's body. Why can Imu use the Haki in Joy Boy's Hat? Because Imu has Joy Boy's Body.

What did Doffy say?



I think at the end of the Void Century, the war was so bad, both sides wanted to stop after 100 years.

Joy Boy invited Nerona Imu, representative of the 20 Nations, to Marijoa, the land built to welcome all Tribes as equals (which is why Super Giants like Harald can easily fit in the doors/halls of Marijoa. Why would Giants be able to fit there, if Castle Pangea had been built by racists like the CDs?).

Joy Boy wished to end the war with peace talks... and Imu used this opportunity, to activate the Abyss, and raid the Castle with Demons/troops.

We know from Elbaph that Demon Summoning is real. Imu's Demon powers don't come from a Fruit: Imu is possessed by an actual Demon Lord.

Then, using the Ope Ope no Mi, Imu switched places with Joy Boy.

Joy Boy, now as Imu, tries to warn everyone, but is blamed/not trusted.

In Joy Boy's Body, Imu declares that Nerona Imu/the 20 Kingdoms have betrayed the Ancient Kingdom, attacked Castle Pangea, slaughtered many, and tried to kill him, as well.

Imu Joy Boy uses the Ancient Weapons to cause the World Flooding, and the Abyss to save those loyal to him by taking those 20 families, and their slaves, and transporting them on top of the Red Line to Marijoa.

Real Joy Boy in Imu's body dies tragically, and the rest is history.

Imu literally took over the Ancient Kingdom, by stealing Joy Boy's body.

Idk about everything else but that would be an insane way to explain why mothers die so often lol.

And tbf, its not like he doesnt do this with fathers either

- Roger (through Shanks)
- Hiluluk
- Cobra
- Tom
- Clover
- Whitebeard
- Kyros (though he doesnt die)
- Rocinante
- Yasue
- Oden
- Kuma (sort of)
- Rocks
- Presumably Harald

Are all fathers or father figures that he uses to drive forward character resolve the same way he does mothers, it just happens less often, but he also makes them far more memorable imo.

Oda just has issues writing women in general. Imo Otohime is one of his best mothers and she's written around the idea of her being literally fragile lol...


Edit: Garp and Shanks have sort of death flags atm too so this kind of extends to Koby and Luffy respectively in a way
 
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Idk about everything else but that would be an insane way to explain why mothers die so often lol.

And tbf, its not like he doesnt do this with fathers either

- Roger (through Shanks)
- Hiluluk
- Cobra
- Tom
- Clover
- Whitebeard
- Kyros (though he doesnt die)
- Rocinante
- Yasue
- Oden
- Kuma (sort of)
- Rocks
- Presumably Harald

Are all fathers or father figures that he uses to drive forward character resolve the same way he does mothers, it just happens less often, but he also makes them far more memorable imo.

Oda just has issues writing women in general. Imo Otohime is one of his best mothers and she's written around the idea of her being literally fragile lol...


Edit: Garp and Shanks have sort of death flags atm too so this kind of extends to Koby and Luffy respectively in a way
Yep, as discussed by a previous chapter thread, Oda is killing both parents and parent figures very often, it's just that he does makes fathers more memorable and impactful. Compare Oden and Toki, Roger and Rogue, Kuma and Ginny... Otohime and Olivia are the only moms who actually had something they were invested in except for being a mom. Sanji's mom poisoned herself with the drugs for the sake of her children. Bellemere took a bullet for her kids. Shank & Shamrock's mom was killed just because. Estrid was a bitch, yes, but she also just died out of blue. Love sickness only affecting women is also bad.

Agree on the death flags for Garp and Shanks.
 
I just cannot see what could happen that could lead to Harald betraying Imu.
  • He chose the WG over his best friend
  • Knowing full well how bad they are, Harald willingly became a celestial dragon
Even creating an army for Imu shouldn’t be a disqualifier because Harald said several chapters ago that he wanted more giants like John Giant in the WG.

Harald having a change of heart would be an asspull. People like this irl don’t change.

Loki and Jarul should just recognize Harald as a threat to Elbaf and decide to kill him.
Peak troll post honestly
 
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