Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

So you acknowledge that your issue is jumping the gun and making assumptions, but act disappointed when someone doesn't like being strawmanned?

Only a part of your sentence here. I do jump the gun, but I'm not making assumptions. I'm having a "logical" reasonning that goes beyond the words as I explain. Which make it look like an assumption, when it's not. Like I said, this create the sensation that I invent stuff on a whim. This behavior has earned me a lot of laugh in my lifes and paradoxically, a lot of praise too, since the logic is solid, it just takes a lot of time to land.

If you want a metaphor. Look at my reasonning as someone telling you that the puzzle that you just made is beautiful (or bad)... when in reality you only put your second piece and the person, who already made the puzzle in her head, is trying to make you feel the same way as they feels.

If someone says men on average have more physical strength than woman, you will swoop in and claim they are enabling the patriarchy by pushing men>women rhetoric, making them sexist. It doesnt take a genius to know why you fail.

See.. for ex here, if I didn't pause and analyse my behavior before. I would not talk about your ex and ask you why you are using this specific exemple.... very sussly

As for your ex, no. I would probably tell them that they are right. There is no reason to say that women on average have equal strength as men. Unless there is an info I do not have. On the other hand, the fact that they would say that randomly would - just like I did with you here - raise concern. As such I would be calling out the sexism of the rethoric of this person based NOT on their sentences which is irrelevant, but because of the contextual informations with said sentence and the need of the person to affirmate something that only sexist people do.

Here, I just took on me the time to explain to you my reasoning, butn a normal discussion this would go like that:

- "Women have more physical strength than women"
- "Why are you saying that? "

> That's if I'm in a good mood.

- "Women have more physical strength than women"
- "You don't have to show your sexism"

> That's if I'm in a bad mood.


As you can see. I always jump ahead (and I didn't realize until now that it was also something that I did on internet) and you would be right on my behavior. But the reasoning is always solid and therefore you would be wrong on the reason why I did that.

This pretty much encompass our entire conflictual interactions here. I thought I was able to show a better reasoning in virtual because of the text format, but this is obviously not the case.

This will be hard to compensate..

 

[Zenos7]

 

[Logiko]

This behavior has earned me a lot of laugh in my life

It's crazy to think that a behavior that made me insecure all my life, and that I was sure the text format prevented, is the reason why I'm failing so miserably now and feel so defeated.

I'm doomed

 

[NAMELESS]

Continental Europe once held 25% of global GDP. Today it clings to 14%, nearly half its global weight erased in a single generation. Not by invasion. Not by Putin. By decisions its own elites made freely. Europe was no prisoner. It was not dragged into this. It chose ideology over energy security, fantasy over industry, obdience over sovereignty. It had the power to act like a civilization, and acted instead like a petulant, arrogant vassal.

They swore Russia would disappear.
Yet she stands rooted, sovereign, expanding, the Eurasian pole they insisted could never exist. Its economy rises into the world’s top four while Europe implodes. Its industrial base grows while Europe’s corrodes.

And it is Europe that dims: censored, exhausted, directionless, governed by elites who call obedience maturity and dependency enlightenment. A continent once central to world history now drifts unrecognizable even by the ally that encouraged its self-destruction and now drafts the alibi from afar.

The EU tried to erase Russia. In reality, Europe erased itself. And Washington just wrote the obituary.

Sad, but true.

Galaxy clearly said that your beliefs can impact how you consume things, and that what you consume can affect your politics. "OnePiss" however is so childish that you must be braindead to let such a low tier cmoic affect you in such a way imo.

He didn't say nor imply that outside influence cant be a factor. He literally said the opposite.

Ace's death made me sad for a couple of days back then, but I was 16 when I saw that.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I wish there was a way to change the way I think. Sadly, it's not possible, this is not a belief problem, but a biological one. I'm sad that this prevented me from making people here understand the real danger of toxicity and fascism or the benefit of politics, but I believe in time. I planted a seed, an inception.. maybe some people will now make a much better job at it than me.

I can only hope.

You should seriously go see what the rest of the internet is like

this community, for all its faults, is comparatively wholesome

 

[Logiko]

You should seriously go see what the rest of the internet is like

this community, for all its faults, is comparatively wholesome

Should we stop looking at the problems of our homes when there are worse things happening everywhere else?

 

[Ravagerblade]

I wish there was a way to change the way I think. Sadly, it's not possible, this is not a belief problem, but a biological one. I'm sad that this prevented me from making people here understand the real danger of toxicity and fascism or the benefit of politics, but I believe in time. I planted a seed, an inception.. maybe some people will now make a much better job at it than me.

I can only hope.

The only thing you planted is doubt. The way you talk, phrase things, perhaps it's just a language thing, idk. But it certainly doesn't inspire much positive. Beyond that, you insist it's biological? Please don't make me laugh.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Kill this thread with fire

 

[Uncle Van]

Kill this thread with fire

Fuck no. So many here dig their own holes. Been a decent success so far lol

 

[Mathias]

Don’t worry guys. I can see that you are all under shock after Logiko’s announcement of his desire to leave this place. The special team has worked to create a Logiko AI with his thousands of posts just to keep up the traffic in this forum.

Logiko will be split between many accounts with each his own traits representing the real Logiko.
-Carrot for Nakama that will focus on defending this character in whatever way.
-Un-Logiko will be the bad side of him. The young Logiko that was very confused and kissed the far right.
-The Red, someone who is doomed in the sensitive topics. Very charismatic poster who only writes few sentences but never misses.
-Mastermind, never gonna post in threads. Only DMs. Trying to recruit lefties to create an underground revolution. Being contacted by mastermind is an honour and a privilege.
-Logispam, posting only copy-pasta but creative !
-LogiGOD, admin. He will ban the bourgeoisie mods and make this place an utopia inshallah.

 

[Daniel]

Unrelated, but the hijab is still considered mandatory wear in Iran.
Here is the link to the article.

The Iranian judiciary says two organisers of a marathon have been arrested for allowing women who were not wearing hijabs to take part.

The move comes after images appeared online of unveiled women competing in the race on Friday.

Two thousand women and 3,000 men took part separately in the marathon on Kish Island off the southern coast of Iran.

Dressed in red t-shirts, some of the women competitors were clearly not wearing the hijab or any other head covering.

This drew very different reactions.

Many supporters of change in Iran enthusiastically hailed the images as further evidence of Iranian women rejecting the restrictions placed by the authorities on what they can wear.

For their part, Iranian officials have responded to it as an unacceptable challenge to the status quo.

The judiciary has moved quickly against the organisers.

It is not just the flouting of the rules on the hijab by some female competitors but that the marathon was held at all that has drawn condemnation from the country theocratic Islamic leadership.

Just a few years ago, the sight of so many Iranian women in sports gear participating in such a mass public event – even if segregated from male participants – would have been seen as a contravention.

The prosecutor in Kish said the way that the race was being held was in itself a "violation of public decency".

The issue of the hijab remains at the heart of the debate on where Iran might be going.

Government action against women appearing in public without a head covering has varied - sometimes permitting a loosening of the rules, at others mounting a clampdown on any transgression.

The mass protests that rocked Iran for months three years ago were triggered by the death of the young Kurdish Iranian woman, Mahsa Amini, who died in custody after being detained over an alleged breach of the dress code.

Since the protests were quelled through force and mass arrests, some Iranian women have continued to defy the rules.

That has prompted a recent pushback by the authorities.

The head of the judiciary has warned of a renewed campaign against women not wearing the hijab in public.

Gholamhossein Mohseni Ejei said that intelligence agencies had been ordered to identify and report on what he called "organised trends promoting immorality and non-veiling".

There is clearly no end for now in the standoff between Iran's leaders and many of its own people – particularly in the younger generation – over how women are allowed to dress.

 

[Uncle Van]

Apparently, Trump removed MLK Day and Junetenth from free entry days at national parks. They are being replaced by Trump's birthday. Add that ontop off them signing to remove the history of slavery from schools for "painting America in a bad light."

 

[Daniel]

@Uncle Van
Link to the article.
Posting article below.

The Trump administration has changed which days Americans can visit national parks for free next year, removing Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth and adding President Donald Trump’s birthday, which falls on Flag Day.

The Department of the Interior made the changes last month, designating those 2026 dates “resident-only patriotic fee-free days.” Other changes include adding the Fourth of July weekend and President Theodore Roosevelt’s birthday to the list, while removing the anniversary of the Great American Outdoors Act in August and National Public Lands Day in September.

In a press release announcing new prices for annual passes to the nation’s national parks for nonresidents, the Interior Department — led by Interior Secretary Doug Burgum — also released a list of fee-free dates for next year.

The dates for 2026 include President’s Day in February, Memorial Day in May, Flag Day/Trump’s birthday in June, Independence Day weekend in July, the 110th Birthday of the National Park Service in August, Constitution Day in September, Theodore Roosevelt’s birthday in October and Veteran’s Day in November.

One of those dates — Veteran’s Day — has been a fee-free day before, according to a list of the 2025 fee-free dates and a list of the 2024 fee-free dates.

Another date that has been observed as a fee-free day in the past that wasn’t included on the 2026 list is the first day of National Park Week in April.

In a 2025 announcement regarding fee-free days, the National Parks Service website said that free admission would be offered to everyone, but a notice regarding upcoming changes for 2026 said that entrance fee-free days will “only apply to US citizens and residents.”

Representatives for the White House, the Interior Department and the National Park Service did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the changes.

The National Park Service earlier this year faced public criticism for removing content from its website about Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad, though the agency restored the content in April.

Those changes were made amid a broader campaign by the Trump administration this spring targeting what administration officials viewed as content related to DEI, or diversity, equity and inclusion.

In another instance, pages describing the military service of Jackie Robinson, who broke Major League Baseball’s color barrier, were removed from the Defense Department’s website.

Dates removed as free-entry days:

• Martin Luther King Jr. Day
• Juneteenth
• Anniversary of the Great American Outdoors Act (August)
• National Public Lands Day (September)
• First day of National Park Week (April)

Dates added as free-entry days:

• June 14, or Flag Day (Donald Trump’s birthday)
• Independence Day weekend (July)
• Theodore Roosevelt’s birthday (October)
• NPS 110th Birthday (August)

Note that free days in 2026 apply ONLY to U.S. citizens and residents, not “everyone,” unlike previous years.

Should I go for the low-hanging fruit and call this act racist, or should I hold off a bit? Trump probably wants to emphasize days he sees as symbolic expressions of patriotism, but removing MLK Day and Juneteenth makes him look like he doesn’t give two shits about the significance of Black history in the U.S whatsoever.

 

[Uncle Van]

@Uncle Van
Link to the article.
Posting article below.

Dates removed as free-entry days:

• Martin Luther King Jr. Day
• Juneteenth
• Anniversary of the Great American Outdoors Act (August)
• National Public Lands Day (September)
• First day of National Park Week (April)

Dates added as free-entry days:

• June 14, or Flag Day (Donald Trump’s birthday)
• Independence Day weekend (July)
• Theodore Roosevelt’s birthday (October)
• NPS 110th Birthday (August)

Note that free days in 2026 apply ONLY to U.S. citizens and residents, not “everyone,” unlike previous years.

Should I go for the low-hanging fruit and call this act racist, or should I hold off a bit? Trump probably wants to emphasize days he sees as symbolic expressions of patriotism, but removing MLK Day and Juneteenth makes him look like he doesn’t give two shits about the significance of Black history in the U.S whatsoever.

It's national purity. Removing the dark history of your nation to boost pro-national sentiment, and black history is directly tied to the darkest times of America.

The purest form of America in their eyes is a white christian nation, with values fully going back to the pre-60s era before those pesky civil rights acts were passed.

 

[Daniel]

Removing the dark history of your nation to boost pro-national sentiment, and black history is directly tied to the darkest times of America.

This plan of the Trump administration can't work too well if the even the basic needs (price of goods still increasing, tariffs, housing affordability issues) for millions of people are still not being met.

But maybe all of this is just a small stepping stone to provide an opportunity for the US to plan something larger, such as creating the necessary conditions for true nationalism to take place so the U.S. can have a “strongman” leader similar to China, which has made remarkable strides in technology and its economy over the last decade despite its entire existence being the complete opposite of what the democrats of the U.S would stand for.

 

[RyoQ]

Apparently, Trump removed MLK Day and Junetenth from free entry days at national parks. They are being replaced by Trump's birthday. Add that ontop off them signing to remove the history of slavery from schools for "painting America in a bad light."

Blacks in America when the white man removes of their precious days, as if giving them an entire fucking month as a holiday (February) wasn't good enough

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Blacks in America when the white man removes of their precious days, as if giving them an entire fucking month as a holiday (February) wasn't good enough

Obviously removing a day dedicated to one of the most popular activists in history is a problem lol

 

[RyoQ]

Obviously removing a day dedicated to one of the most popular activists in history is a problem lol

No, that is not "obvious". Maybe to black America arrogance which gets an entire month as a holiday but still want more, it's obvious. Lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

No, that is not "obvious". Maybe to black America arrogance which gets an entire month as a holiday but still want more, it's obvious. Lol

It's honestly the least they can do considering how disastrous slavery (and racism in general) was back then, and how bad it still is today.

 

[Midnight Delight]

true nationalism to take place so the U.S. can have a “strongman” leader similar to China, which has made remarkable strides in technology and its economy over the last decade despite its entire existence being the complete opposite of what the democrats of the U.S would stand for.

China is also the opposite of neoliberalism of American Conservatives if you look at their economic policies (and Foreign policy too)