Powers & Abilities Sanji used ACoC to kick Kizaru’s beam

[Monkey D Theories]

Sanji’s feat of kicking Kizaru’s laser was portrayed as an impossibility.

Sanji said he was capable of such a feat due to “love”, but nothing suggests this is an actual explanation for Sanji’s ability. Rather it is simply Sanji’s own idea of what happened.

From a story perspective however, it makes the most sense if it was conquerors. Sanji needs to unlock conquerors in Elbaf. Dorry and Brogy were domi reversi’d, and Sanji will probably need to use CoC to break the curse, just like Roger and Garp did to Rocks.

Sanji getting it out of nowhere would make no sense. Hence the most logical way for Oda to do it is by simply tying Sanji’s “love” abilities to CoC.

Not sure if DJ is really CoC because tbh that looks more like a lineage factor power. But kicking a DF-created beam is something an ACoC user should be able to do.

Sentomaru, an ACoA user, fought Kizaru and couldn’t do it. And Kizaru was sweating when he saw Sanji do it, just like Kaido after being scarred by Zoro on the roof.

I think Sanji will have a similar moment in Elbaf, doing something impossible and attributing it to love, only for someone to instead tell him it was conqueror’s.

 

[ZenZu]

I doubt it, Kizaru fought G5 Luffy took a WSG to the dome and hardly looked bothered. Sanji got the weirdest reaction out of him, if Kizaru expected ACoC to do that I doubt he makes that face, he clashed with Ray, WB, Luffy and never reacted that way. Ray stopped him from forming into his light before, he was still unbothered.

 

[kekaro]

So not only something Luffy and his green dick cleaner cant even do multiple arcs after but we only seen from rocks? After Kizaru fighting people like Ray and Wb?

I hope for the mental health here thats another monkey theory bust or pew gonna put in the suicide hotline in the spoilers again

 

[ZoroFan23]

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[Monkey D Theories]

I doubt it, Kizaru fought G5 Luffy took a WSG to the dome and hardly looked bothered. Sanji got the weirdest reaction out of him, if Kizaru expected ACoC to do that I doubt he makes that face, he clashed with Ray, WB, Luffy and never reacted that way. Ray stopped him from forming into his light before, he was still unbothered.

I mean it is shocking. Most yonko subordinates don’t have it.

 

[ZenZu]

I mean it is shocking. Most yonko subordinates don’t have it.

So you're basically saying Kizaru wasn't shocked by the feat itself, but he was shocked a fodder like Sanji could perform the feat? I don't know if I buy that, wasn't presented that way. That face was way too wild for Kizaru's standards to just be that.

 

[kekaro]

So you're basically saying Kizaru wasn't shocked by the feat itself, but he was shocked a fodder like Sanji could perform the feat? I don't know if I buy that, wasn't presented that way. That face was way too wild for Kizaru's standards to just be that.

I mean it is shocking. Most yonko subordinates don’t have it.

The exchange directy after the scene talk about it itself being not possible, as in the interaction of light getting dispersed
It make 0 sense with what you saying if it was about who. Kizaru talks like he never seen that

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The exchange directy after the scene talk about it itself being not possible, as in the interaction of light getting dispersed
It make 0 sense with what you saying if it was about who. Kizaru talks like he never seen that

the only ACoC users he’s fought are yonko, whom he wouldn’t be surprised could counter his attacks as they are yonko.

but haki should be able to counter a DF attack like Kizaru’s beam

 

[soupongo]

If we take it for granted that Sanji has it, it would make sense. Kaido also reacted more when he found out Zoro has COC, as opposed to just generally being annoyed at Luffy having it. It´s more shocking to have subordinates show it, it must remind people of the Rocks pirates or Ray/Gaban, with COC users working for a captain.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Holy shit no way people seriously believe this lol. It's just Armament Haki bro
At most you can say it's PoL but PoL is likely just Haki anyway. It'll be the same result in the end

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Holy shit no way people seriously believe this lol. It's just Armament Haki bro
At most you can say it's PoL but PoL is likely just Haki anyway. It'll be the same result in the end

There is no way an admiral who has fought countless people with high level CoA and himself has high level CoA would be shocked at the impossible feat of scattering/dispersing light.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

There is no way an admiral who has fought countless people with high level CoA and himself has high level CoA would be shocked at the impossible feat of scattering/dispersing light.

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There is no way an admiral who has fought countless people with high level CoA and himself has high level CoA would be shocked at the impossible feat of scattering/dispersing light.

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There is no way an admiral who has fought countless people with high level CoA and himself has high level CoA would be shocked at the impossible feat of scattering/dispersing light.

He would if it came from a "mere underling" like Sanji.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

He would if it came from a "mere underling" like Sanji.

No it is considered an impossibility for anyone to interact with lasers. No one has shown it so far. Kizaru himself considers it an impossibility.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

No it is considered an impossibility for anyone to interact with lasers. No one has shown it so far. Kizaru himself considers it an impossibility.

Zoro cut fire and water, I don't see how this is that much different.
Obviously a fantasy world will have fantasy things happening in it.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

If you think Sanji interacting with light the way he did is just because of CoA, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Cutting water and fire is literally meaningless and is never considered/portrayed to be an impossible feat. Sanji's is. No one in the story had interacted eith light the way Sanji has. Also if Sanji's CoA is so good he can interact with light i guess he has better armament than Zoro given Zoro himself considered it an impossibility to block a laser.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

If you think Sanji interacting with light the way he did is just because of CoA, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Cutting water and fire is literally meaningless and is never considered/portrayed to be an impossible feat. Sanji's is. No one in the story had interacted eith light the way Sanji has. Also if Sanji's CoA is so good he can interact with light i guess he has better armament than Zoro given Zoro himself considered it an impossibility to block a laser.

Are those not intangible, just like light is? I see no reason to put one feat on a pedestal over the other honestly.
Also, Zoro said King's beak was "like a laser" due to it's speed. It's no different from a commentator saying a boxer's punch is like a bullet.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Are those not intangible, just like light is? I see no reason to put one feat on a pedestal over the other honestly.
Also, Zoro said King's beak was "like a laser" due to it's speed. It's no different from a commentator saying a boxer's punch is like a bullet.

Water is tangible has it has physical mass and so fire has been cut before by others. It by no means has the same narrative importance or instroy shock value that Sanji's feat had. Sanji's feat was considered an impossibility by an admiral whose encountered and uses the very best of armament. Sanji performed a feat that wasn't even considered possible and had a navy admiral shook. This should be pedastalised above those others. It seems weird that a Sanji fan would go out of his way to discredit a feat that narratively was given so much importance.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Water is tangible has it has physical mass and so fire has been cut before by others. It by no means has the same narrative importance or instroy shock value that Sanji's feat had. Sanji's feat was considered an impossibility by an admiral whose encountered and uses the very best of armament. Sanji performed a feat that wasn't even considered possible and had a navy admiral shook. This should be pedastalised above those others. It seems weird that a Sanji fan would go out of his way to discredit a feat that narratively was given so much importance.

Do you believe that, in order to be a fan of a character, you need to agree with every single opinion that other fans of the character have?
I simply don't believe that Sanji used Conq Haki here. You can say he used Haki in general or PoL (which may be the same things just like Mantra is Observation Haki or how Sabo's Ryusoken is almost certain to involve ACoA) or the Exoskeleton, which would all make sense, but I don't see a reason to claim it's Conq Haki nor a reason to hype it as some super special feat that no one in the verse could ever replicate. It's not like we just never saw someone interact with an intangible thing and disperse it or block it.

 

[kekaro]

"water is not tangible"

 

[nik87]

No.
Kizaru obviously never saw anything like that.