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We are in a political thread, this kind of debate is literally the purpose of this place. And I have a specific objective > the politicization of this forum. I can't simply stay silent while you are waiting for your representative to save you from the incoming fascism that is about to eat all of you alive. And I can't stay silence in front of reactionaries either.
Plus, I keep on trying to help you, give you data. My method is not the best, true. I shouldn't explain and show instead. I learned that too late. But I'm never seeing you guyz as lesser than me, I wouldn't keep trying to give you all the information I can for you to politicize. I genuinely care and I believe most people here would be far more efficient than me if they did too.
Plus, I keep on trying to help you, give you data. My method is not the best, true. I shouldn't explain and show instead. I learned that too late. But I'm never seeing you guyz as lesser than me, I wouldn't keep trying to give you all the information I can for you to politicize. I genuinely care and I believe most people here would be far more efficient than me if they did too.
I can guarantee you that at least some of us don't really hate you, we just despise the way you go about things. You act as though you can never be wrong and try way too hard to convince people of your worldview, all while you never once thought of someone else's worldview and beliefs.
You tell me every time we talk on here, that I'm not aware of the pressure the system puts on us, or whatever other nonsense you talk about. But I know very well how the system tries it's hardest to work against us and divide us, and that's why you will see me constantly stressing the point that I will not generalize any groups no matter what. You get mad when I say things like "ACAB is dumb", thinking that I'm trying to suck up to the people at the top, but as a black person I've already seen so many examples of cops acting an absolute fool, especially against minorities. So I KNOW that a lot of cops are evil, I just also know that I can't let that blind me and make me biased as it'll just make me like them. You don't seem to have that same mindset and that's where you've always gone wrong.
You would know all this, if you just took the time to listen to me and the other people in this thread. But a lot of people on this site never likes to listen to me, they don't want to look past the version of me they already have etched into their brain, and so nobody ever cares to think about whether or not what I'm saying is logical.
Flip that in reverse.
You constantly tell others how to live their lives, what they should believe, and what they should be learning. You don't get to preach about who has the 'business' to talk when you spend your time doing exactly that to everyone else.
Your 'political argument' about how someone should see the crimes of another isn't any less judgmental; it is also downright hypocritical.
See this exchange?
And then MZTS responsds back with:
You tell people that they shouldn't see murderers or rapists as 'monsters' because that only 'individualizes' the problem. You instruct others to drop their immediate, human anger and refocus it on 'systemic structures.' You're outright telling others that their genuine, necessary emotional response to a crime is wrong because it doesn't fit your so called academic framework.
You are constantly attempting to re-engineer how people think about the world, crime, and justice.
So the next time you preach about who has the 'business' to talk, remember you've already told victims of violence how they should process their own trauma.
You constantly tell others how to live their lives, what they should believe, and what they should be learning. You don't get to preach about who has the 'business' to talk when you spend your time doing exactly that to everyone else.
Your 'political argument' about how someone should see the crimes of another isn't any less judgmental; it is also downright hypocritical.
See this exchange?
And then MZTS responsds back with:
You tell people that they shouldn't see murderers or rapists as 'monsters' because that only 'individualizes' the problem. You instruct others to drop their immediate, human anger and refocus it on 'systemic structures.' You're outright telling others that their genuine, necessary emotional response to a crime is wrong because it doesn't fit your so called academic framework.
You are constantly attempting to re-engineer how people think about the world, crime, and justice.
So the next time you preach about who has the 'business' to talk, remember you've already told victims of violence how they should process their own trauma.
Because far left deology by design doesn't rely on racism while the far right does. The far left hate the system and targets those in power, citizens deemed fascist, and those that helps to spread inequality. The far right is rooted in hate, and targets groups of people based on their perceived inferiority aka race, gender, religion, etc.
In the Carrot left, of course not...apparently.
Communism is without question left wing. It's like claiming fascism is left wing. Leftist and right wingers always try to distance themselves from the extremes of their ideologies and claim it's the other ideology.
In the Carrot left, of course not...apparently.
Communism is without question left wing. It's like claiming fascism is left wing. Leftist and right wingers always try to distance themselves from the extremes of their ideologies and claim it's the other ideology.
Things like this are exactly what my second most recent message in this thread was about. You have no clue what you're talking about and clearly live in your own bubble.
In no way shape or form has my "vision of systemic racism" ever been flawed. I'm actually surprised you even said that to be honest
In no way shape or form has my "vision of systemic racism" ever been flawed. I'm actually surprised you even said that to be honest
Mais dude... mais dude....
Open your freaking eyes. Lmao! I'm literally politically, mentally, physically, narratively and in the writing COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from who I was when I arrived. Really, it's crazy to me that people here are so oblivious to these changes because I myself feel very insecure about the BS that I said on this forum or the way I sometimes replied lmao.
Just do something for me, compare the way I talk now, with the way I talked I'd say a year or two ago.
Then tell me what is the biggest difference.
No. I'm not a messiah. I'm simply someone who cares and I know that no one else will do this job here, so I have to do it. I already explained multiple time that I would enjoy relaxing and seeing this thread really politicize, but it does not happen.
You literally said this mate:
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This, on the left at least where I live, is an instant red flag.
I won't explain once again why, it will be useless, but the fact is, this is not the words of someone who doesn't have a flawed vision of systemic racism.
Now that is true. I recently took notice of that. Simply because it's also something that happens in real life too. The problem here is the way my brain is wired. I cannot really explain why, but when I'm convinced of something I feel a need to share what I know and be sure that every minds align to this knowledge. Meaning that I have a very hard time understanding why other can't understand.
It's freezing my brain since I know for a fact - because of various specific clues - that people don't really understand my logic. Which create the absolute need to explain everything. This got me in a dark place recently so I took notice.
This is why now, I'll try not to explain, unless I don't see really how or if I'm being asked. > This is me literally changing in front of you.
But I know that. This is not a surprise. The part that you don't understand and that I failed to show, is that if you REALLY knew about the reality of the world... this would completely shift your vision. Yeah, you would play smart with cops, but you would be as much as an ACAB as me, even angrier perhaps. What I'm telling you is that I don't simply assume, I KNOW that you don't get it.
I heard you. I see you. I listened to you. You need to trust me on that. I get people, I get you. I simply don't know how to talk back.And at no point will I belittle your position or life. There are things that you live that I will never understand. This is not me. But, I know and understand a reality specific to our world that I know you don't and that you would benefit from discovering. This is what I wanna share.
Politically yes. Not in real life. Our lives are the results of systems and political descisions. They are all highly political subjects.
If you see me attack you on your personnal life and your personnal choice outside of a political lens or a clear discussed subject, go ahead and criticize me. You will be right to do so. But this is never what I do here. I respect people to much for that. I can't say the same for the rest of you.
Since when anger and dehumanization are the same thing? It's a slippery slope. I've never told anyone to stop being angry.. in fact: I want you to be angry. I thought this was obvious... Anger is the motor of politicization, so I want that! Dehumanization is different. I don't really care about these guyz, I care about the other innocent people that can be victim of this dehumanization by proxy
This is true. I'm being very honest about it. I wish for this forum to become a leftist and revolutionary safe place.. I believe this is the one of the ways how 1. This forum can evolve and survive 2. We can easily politicize new readers 3. People like me can keep having fun discussing One Piece
Oh no. I'll repeat it. You have no business explaining how a disabled person should live their lives. Make political arguments, not ableist ones.
One of the biggest adversary to us in France at the moment on the left is a Far right Police union. Just so you know..
Open your freaking eyes. Lmao! I'm literally politically, mentally, physically, narratively and in the writing COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from who I was when I arrived. Really, it's crazy to me that people here are so oblivious to these changes because I myself feel very insecure about the BS that I said on this forum or the way I sometimes replied lmao.
Just do something for me, compare the way I talk now, with the way I talked I'd say a year or two ago.
Then tell me what is the biggest difference.
No. I'm not a messiah. I'm simply someone who cares and I know that no one else will do this job here, so I have to do it. I already explained multiple time that I would enjoy relaxing and seeing this thread really politicize, but it does not happen.
You literally said this mate:
>>>
This, on the left at least where I live, is an instant red flag.
I won't explain once again why, it will be useless, but the fact is, this is not the words of someone who doesn't have a flawed vision of systemic racism.
Now that is true. I recently took notice of that. Simply because it's also something that happens in real life too. The problem here is the way my brain is wired. I cannot really explain why, but when I'm convinced of something I feel a need to share what I know and be sure that every minds align to this knowledge. Meaning that I have a very hard time understanding why other can't understand.
It's freezing my brain since I know for a fact - because of various specific clues - that people don't really understand my logic. Which create the absolute need to explain everything. This got me in a dark place recently so I took notice.
This is why now, I'll try not to explain, unless I don't see really how or if I'm being asked. > This is me literally changing in front of you.
But I know that. This is not a surprise. The part that you don't understand and that I failed to show, is that if you REALLY knew about the reality of the world... this would completely shift your vision. Yeah, you would play smart with cops, but you would be as much as an ACAB as me, even angrier perhaps. What I'm telling you is that I don't simply assume, I KNOW that you don't get it.
I heard you. I see you. I listened to you. You need to trust me on that. I get people, I get you. I simply don't know how to talk back.And at no point will I belittle your position or life. There are things that you live that I will never understand. This is not me. But, I know and understand a reality specific to our world that I know you don't and that you would benefit from discovering. This is what I wanna share.
Politically yes. Not in real life. Our lives are the results of systems and political descisions. They are all highly political subjects.
If you see me attack you on your personnal life and your personnal choice outside of a political lens or a clear discussed subject, go ahead and criticize me. You will be right to do so. But this is never what I do here. I respect people to much for that. I can't say the same for the rest of you.
Since when anger and dehumanization are the same thing? It's a slippery slope. I've never told anyone to stop being angry.. in fact: I want you to be angry. I thought this was obvious... Anger is the motor of politicization, so I want that! Dehumanization is different. I don't really care about these guyz, I care about the other innocent people that can be victim of this dehumanization by proxy
This is true. I'm being very honest about it. I wish for this forum to become a leftist and revolutionary safe place.. I believe this is the one of the ways how 1. This forum can evolve and survive 2. We can easily politicize new readers 3. People like me can keep having fun discussing One Piece
Oh no. I'll repeat it. You have no business explaining how a disabled person should live their lives. Make political arguments, not ableist ones.
One of the biggest adversary to us in France at the moment on the left is a Far right Police union. Just so you know..
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