Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

At best a little exaggerated

Simply untrue. I have disagreement with many leftists, it doesn't make them conservatists. At best they have, like me, some biases.

You guyz are fantasizing a behavior. You see me calling a lot of people conservatist or rightist not understanding that there are actually a LOT of conservatist here compared to actual leftists. To the point some of you think as yourself as leftist when you are not.

He doesn't live in the real world

No, the purpose of the police is to stop criminals and protect potential victims.

That must be why women are scared to go to the Police to fail a complain, that must be why somehow people who fight capitalism are always having the police in front of them, that must be why racialized people are systematically endangered by the police, that must why we demand for the Police not to intervene in case of psychologic problem, that must be why most police have far right tendancies...




Or perhaps... you might be willing to read this instead: Link to a 2020 article of the New Yorker "The invention of the Police"

Spoiler:

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To sum up : The Police is a feudal tool of repression used by capitalism and the ruling class in order to maintain its assets and racist system or imperialist agenda. The police's job is not peace, it's the order of those in power and those who own the means of productions. Being in the police means serving THEM against US.

This implies capitalist interests, but also racial ones, eugenics, patriarcals etc. It's a factual and sociological data and by now.. it should be an obvious consensus.

Now that you know this.. Why do you think the police is feared by most racialized people ?

By women ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1968589427027931472

.. by disabled people ?

Here is the video:

Spoiler: TW - Police violence and death on a Disabled person

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1270593269773156354

And another from France, because why not?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1899831443108376653

By LGBTQI+ or pro Palestine protester?

Or any other person on the planet?

I hope... I didn't "explained" too much and "showed" you enough.. And now that you have these informations.. have the guts to tell me that this is not a systemic problem.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Simply untrue. I have disagreement with many leftists, it doesn't make them conservatists. At best they have, like me, some biases.

You guyz are fantasizing a behavior. You see me calling a lot of people conservatist or rightist not understanding that there are actually a LOT of conservatist here compared to actual leftists. To the point some of you think as yourself as leftist when you are not.



That must be why women are scared to go to the Police to fail a complain, that must be why somehow people who fight capitalism are always having the police in front of them, that must be why racialized people are systematically endangered by the police, that must why we demand for the Police not to intervene in case of psychologic problem, that must be why most police have far right tendancies...




Or perhaps... you might be willing to read this instead: Link to a 2020 article of the New Yorker "The invention of the Police"

Spoiler:

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

[...]

To sum up : The Police is a feudal tool of repression used by capitalism and the ruling class in order to maintain its assets and racist system or imperialist agenda. The police's job is not peace, it's the order of those in power and those who own the means of productions. Being in the police means serving THEM against US.

This implies capitalist interests, but also racial ones, eugenics, patriarcals etc. It's a factual and sociological data and by now.. it should be an obvious consensus.

Now that you know this.. Why do you think the police is feared by most racialized people ?

By women ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1968589427027931472

.. by disabled people ?

Here is the video:

Spoiler: TW - Police violence and death on a Disabled person

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1270593269773156354

And another from France, because why not?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1899831443108376653

By LGBTQI+ or pro Palestine protester?

Or any other person on the planet?

I hope... I didn't "explained" too much and "showed" you enough.. And now that you have these informations.. have the guts to tell me that this is not a systemic problem.

Because judging a whole group and saying you need to get rid of said group because it happens to have a fair amount of bad people, has never led to terrible things in the past..

 

[Logiko]

Because judging a whole group and saying you need to get rid of said group because it happens to have a fair amount of bad people, has never led to terrible things in the past..

So you didn't even read the post



There goes my hour making it lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Logiko does have a point about the police, while it is a systemic issue not all police officers are like this.

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The police exists as long as States run by centralised power as we know them today will exist.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So you didn't even read the post



There goes my hour making it lmao

Me and you both know that unless someone slams a metal bat into my head, I will never be dumb enough to hate an entire group like the police.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

not all police officers are like this.

This is something he just doesn't seem to understand though. He acts like police officers are inherently evil when this is clearly not the truth.
While a lot of them are corrupt, that definitely doesn't mean all of them are. But he doesn't and won't ever understand that. Logiko simply doesn't learn anything new

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Me and you both know that unless someone slams a metal bat into my head, I will never be dumb enough to hate an entire group like the police.

We should replace the police as an arm of the executive with neighborhood watch-like civilian run groups(armed ofc)

Post automatically merged: Dec 13, 2025

He even has it in his own quote he posts

This is something he just doesn't seem to understand though. He acts like police officers are inherently evil when this is clearly not the truth.
While a lot of them are corrupt, that definitely doesn't mean all of them are. But he doesn't and won't ever understand that. Logiko simply doesn't learn anything new

 

[Logiko]

Logiko does have a point about the police, while it is a systemic issue not all police officers are like this.

Of course but...

The police exists as long as States run by centralised power as we know them today will exist.

Perhaps... I believe we can at least make it harmless.

Me and you both know that unless someone slams a metal bat into my head, I will never be dumb enough to hate an entire group like the police.

Who said it was about hate. I have no hate in me mate. At best anger but that's not even what lie behind my words. It's simply the result of a ethical reasonning. The police systematically work for the interest of the ruling class therefore no matter how hard we reform it, the police will always go against the interest of the populations. It's simple logical reasoning. It's not a question of hatred or anger.

This is something he just doesn't seem to understand though.

Dude... I literally posted this in the post that you DIDN'T READ:

This is what "ACAB" means. > The police will always go against us. Simply because it can ONLY SYSTEMATICALLY go against us.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Of course but...

Perhaps... I believe we can at least make it harmless.



Who said it was about hate. I have no hate in me mate. At best anger but that's not even what lie behind my words. It's simply the result of a ethical reasonning. The police systematically work for the interest of the ruling class therefore no matter how hard we reform it, the police will always go against the interest of the populations. It's simple logical reasoning. It's not a question of hatred or anger.



Dude... I literally posted this in the post that you DIDN'T READ:

Bro you back a movement called "All Cops Are Bastards", is that not hate?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Perhaps... I believe we can at least make it harmless.

No you don't understand me
I'm saying states as we currently know them are the problem

 

[Logiko]

Bro you back a movement called "All Cops Are Bastards", is that not hate?

The police systematically work for the interest of the ruling class therefore no matter how hard we reform it, the police will always go against the interest of the populations.

>>>>>

This is what "ACAB" means. > The police will always go against us. Simply because it can ONLY SYSTEMATICALLY go against us.

 

[Midnight Delight]

 

[Logiko]

No you don't understand me
I'm saying states as we currently know them are the problem

Yup, I totally agree

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The police will always go against us.

No they won't.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Okay @Logiko since you like violent footage do you want me to post Indonesian forces brutalizing indigenous locals in west Papua?

 

[Logiko]

No they won't.

I beg you

Read this: This article is exceptional. It explains without anger all the problem from the creation of the Police to the situation of today.

Okay @Logiko since you like violent footage do you want me to post Indonesian forces brutalizing indigenous locals in west Papua?

I might have already seen it... But go ahead if you wanna share the information with people. What is happening there is also horrible. Just put a Trigger Warning and Spoiler or you will get modded

 

[Midnight Delight]

Okay @Logiko since you like violent footage do you want me to post Indonesian forces brutalizing indigenous locals in west Papua?

Solis

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I might have already seen it... But go ahead if you wanna share the information with people. What is happening there is also horrible. Just put a Trigger Warning and Spoiler or you will get modded

Brb pulling files from my internal brain memory card.
You think I'm saving these videos?

Just put a Trigger Warning and Spoiler or you will get modded

Now that I think about it it might be beSt to look for the worst footage on the internet to finally get the mods to give me a threadban

 

[Logiko]

Brb pulling files from my internal brain memory card.
You think I'm saving these videos?

Now that I think about it it might be beSt to look for the worst footage on the internet to finally get the mods to give me a threadban

Why ddo you want a threadban so much lol?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I beg you

Read this: This article is exceptional. It explains without anger all the problem from the creation of the Police to the situation of today.


I might have already seen it... But go ahead if you wanna share the information with people. What is happening there is also horrible. Just put a Trigger Warning and Spoiler or you will get modded

I'll humor you here. Let's say everything works out and the police are defunded and disbanded. What then?
What happens if tragedies like 9/11 happen again? What do we do without the police to help there?
What about a shooter holding a school hostage?