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I think you do not even understand that your comment just here is irrelevant.
Maybe your vision of leftism is so restricted that you are taking me for a liberal who should not question your words because your are a racialized man. But I'm sorry to burst your bubble, I'm much more radical than that and we don't play by the same rules. Concernism is a good tool, and it's relevant in many cases and matters. But it has its limits.
Understand that while I absolutely should not delegitimize or say that I understand your real life experience with racism,, I surely can tell you that you don't understand what systemic racism is as a domination system.
You are free to disagree.
Nop
You have no idea how much I prevent myself from calling out all the cringe behavior of this thread. But I don't really care anymore.
You guyz are freaking cringe from my pov. I mean, disagreeing is one thing and I can understand it. But I'm facing 25+ years old adult who absolutely don't want to grow up and have actual normal civilized conversation and instead revert to pity strawmans and insult to decredibilize a rethoric. And don't get me wrong. I understand that. I was like that. But damn... The level of cringe...
You disagree ? Ok. Check my rethoric, seek ressources to debunk me. I don't mind, I'm seeking growth.. but what I see is the same behavior I had when I was trying to explain to my family how the world trade center was an inside job. The incapacity for self-questionning, stubborn to a cringe level...
I mean yeah I'm a bit pushy, a bit dramatic and obsessed. But that's has been the case for 3000+ page. Time to stop being shocked and deal with it don't you think ?
It's not like I was literally referencing scientist, scholars or political thinkers all the time, all much more intelligent than all of us combined. lmao
Not enough I'm sorry
I LOVE being wrong mate. Really, you don't understand a single thing about the way I work.
I've always explained just how much of a seeker for this feeling I was. That's literally my fuel and the only way I know how to deal with the stillness of my situation
I love to win, but winning is failing.
Again... no. It's your own strawman
I'm not questionning your experience, I'm question what you are telling me.
Sorry, I won't do it again.
I swer
There is no intent behind my explanation no. Sorry. And we are having an extremely precise conversation.
Maybe your vision of leftism is so restricted that you are taking me for a liberal who should not question your words because your are a racialized man. But I'm sorry to burst your bubble, I'm much more radical than that and we don't play by the same rules. Concernism is a good tool, and it's relevant in many cases and matters. But it has its limits.
Understand that while I absolutely should not delegitimize or say that I understand your real life experience with racism,, I surely can tell you that you don't understand what systemic racism is as a domination system.
You are free to disagree.
Nop
that should be our line, but your bullshit is kind of entertaining at times
You guyz are freaking cringe from my pov. I mean, disagreeing is one thing and I can understand it. But I'm facing 25+ years old adult who absolutely don't want to grow up and have actual normal civilized conversation and instead revert to pity strawmans and insult to decredibilize a rethoric. And don't get me wrong. I understand that. I was like that. But damn... The level of cringe...
You disagree ? Ok. Check my rethoric, seek ressources to debunk me. I don't mind, I'm seeking growth.. but what I see is the same behavior I had when I was trying to explain to my family how the world trade center was an inside job. The incapacity for self-questionning, stubborn to a cringe level...
I mean yeah I'm a bit pushy, a bit dramatic and obsessed. But that's has been the case for 3000+ page. Time to stop being shocked and deal with it don't you think ?
It's not like I was literally referencing scientist, scholars or political thinkers all the time, all much more intelligent than all of us combined. lmao
Not enough I'm sorry
I LOVE being wrong mate. Really, you don't understand a single thing about the way I work.
I've always explained just how much of a seeker for this feeling I was. That's literally my fuel and the only way I know how to deal with the stillness of my situation
I love to win, but winning is failing.
Again... no. It's your own strawman
I'm not questionning your experience, I'm question what you are telling me.
Sorry, I won't do it again.
I swer
There is no intent behind my explanation no. Sorry. And we are having an extremely precise conversation.
I may not have enough information to reply to you here. I don't really know a lot about the Omani Empire. But there is something that you need - really - to understand.
Is that I'm not trying to be political or ideological here. I'm simply trying to share the knowledge I learned from people knowing about the subject, especially researchers and scholars on post-colonialism. So I'm not trying to belittle you and you need to understand that.
Here, you must understand that it's not a matter of copying or time in history. Colonialism is a structure and a process. Very precisely defined.
The reason why the distinction is important in this conversation is because the result of colonialism are absolutely not the same as the result of other conquest in the modern times. They are very different in nature, structure, process, subjugation everything.. And thus, confusing the two and say that everything is colonialism equate the atrocities of current imperialist country of the west and Israel with the result of conquest that you may be suffering now.
Making it look like the situation is similar geopolitically. While I'm not quesitonning your experience, the geopolitics are absolutely not the same and it's a very dangerous road to confuse everything.
I was, until last year yeah.
No more.
Based of the reasearch of scholars on the subject.
What ? can you rephrase that. I didn't understand.
Or chose to ignore it 
Is that I'm not trying to be political or ideological here. I'm simply trying to share the knowledge I learned from people knowing about the subject, especially researchers and scholars on post-colonialism. So I'm not trying to belittle you and you need to understand that.
Here, you must understand that it's not a matter of copying or time in history. Colonialism is a structure and a process. Very precisely defined.
The reason why the distinction is important in this conversation is because the result of colonialism are absolutely not the same as the result of other conquest in the modern times. They are very different in nature, structure, process, subjugation everything.. And thus, confusing the two and say that everything is colonialism equate the atrocities of current imperialist country of the west and Israel with the result of conquest that you may be suffering now.
Making it look like the situation is similar geopolitically. While I'm not quesitonning your experience, the geopolitics are absolutely not the same and it's a very dangerous road to confuse everything.
I was, until last year yeah.
No more.
Based of the reasearch of scholars on the subject.
What ? can you rephrase that. I didn't understand.
missed the point like always 
The issue here isn’t with questioning whether someone’s vision of leftism is too restrictive or not. It’s with turning disagreement into a moral hierarchy, where people are told how they should think or act in order to be considered acceptable.
When discussions shift from exchanging viewpoints to prescribing beliefs as a kind of remedy, and framing disagreement as ideological failure, that’s where you start pushing the patience of others here more than necessary.
When discussions shift from exchanging viewpoints to prescribing beliefs as a kind of remedy, and framing disagreement as ideological failure, that’s where you start pushing the patience of others here more than necessary.
Ok. What do you want me to tell you when you still consider that racism exist against white people thus not understanding the nature of systemic racism as a domination system linked to whiteness and whitesupremacy?
I'm sorry if that's how you feel when you read my words. I'm trying my best not to give that impression as it is absolutely not what I think.
I care about your pov and I care about sharing things with you. But I can't magically agree with everything you say, even if sometimes I do. The problem is that you (as a group) invisibilize these moments.
I'm sorry if that's how you feel when you read my words. I'm trying my best not to give that impression as it is absolutely not what I think.
I care about your pov and I care about sharing things with you. But I can't magically agree with everything you say, even if sometimes I do. The problem is that you (as a group) invisibilize these moments.
Ok. What do you want me to tell you when you still consider that racism exist against white people thus not understanding the nature of systemic racism as a domination system linked to whiteness and whitesupremacy?
"typically" being a key word here.
You can be racist against a non marginalized group, it's just far more rare, which I have said multiple times before.
Your issue is assuming that me saying you can be racist against white people automatically means that I believe racism against white people is on the same level systematically/societally as racism against any other group, but I admitted multiple times that that is not the case. Racism against white people very rarely happens, but that does not mean it doesn't happen and that it isn't okay to do.
Obviously enough, if I had one wish and had to choose between racism against black people (or another group) being erased throughout all history, past present and future, or racism against white people being erased, I would obviously choose the former 10 times out of 10. That's not a debate and it's nothing I'd ever hesitate with. Does not mean that it's fine to be racist to white people, however.
Tell me. When a ruling political group refuses to question and reform an oppressive institution (no ex, imagine anything you want), thus potentially endangering the people who have no choice but to get through this institution...
Do you think it would be fair to compare the rhetoric of people who fight this oppressive institution as a disagreement turned into a moral hierarchy ?
This was the definition of the OED, the Oxford English Dictionary. In other word, a basic definition.
Let me remind you what I explained in details a few pages ago:
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Now please.... Stop
Do you think it would be fair to compare the rhetoric of people who fight this oppressive institution as a disagreement turned into a moral hierarchy ?
This was the definition of the OED, the Oxford English Dictionary. In other word, a basic definition.
Let me remind you what I explained in details a few pages ago:
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Now please.... Stop
I am glad the “racism requires power imbalance” nonsense that perpetual losers tried to push never caught on amongst the populace because it’s just stupid. People do not engage in generalizations and it just causes more resentment
Your average white guy who’s struggling to afford a studio won’t feel any better if you call him a white pos because in general white people have more power
Your average white guy who’s struggling to afford a studio won’t feel any better if you call him a white pos because in general white people have more power
Because you're so much smarter than the people behind the Oxford English Dictionary, right?
God you're so perfect. Everything you do and say is correct. You can never be wrong. You're such a thick dicked 350 iq king it drives me mad. How could I ever be more like you, the oh so venerable and wise Logiko?
God you're so perfect. Everything you do and say is correct. You can never be wrong. You're such a thick dicked 350 iq king it drives me mad. How could I ever be more like you, the oh so venerable and wise Logiko?
He has repeatedly used the phrase "talk to [insert group]" as a way to dismiss someone's argument saying you dont understand their experience.
He made a thread for women to speak, and dismissed the female members assuming they were men(sounds transphobic to me!"). When a woman speaks out against, he dismisses their words as illegitimate and told them how to feel. In the nakama thread he compared shitting on the minks to black suffering, and when black people called him out on the offense, he claimed they dont understand what they are talking about.
So yeah he doesnt care about the experience or suffering of anyone. He will dismiss any and all things for the sake of being right in his mind. Only he has the answers and will tell you how to feel.
He made a thread for women to speak, and dismissed the female members assuming they were men(sounds transphobic to me!"). When a woman speaks out against, he dismisses their words as illegitimate and told them how to feel. In the nakama thread he compared shitting on the minks to black suffering, and when black people called him out on the offense, he claimed they dont understand what they are talking about.
So yeah he doesnt care about the experience or suffering of anyone. He will dismiss any and all things for the sake of being right in his mind. Only he has the answers and will tell you how to feel.
Logiko relatively has a point within the context of
"If Elon Musk who has Fuck you money talks about how Autistic people aren't discriminated against using his own experience, it doesn't matter at all"
Or
"Gay guy who defends calling Justin Bieber/whoever is considered Zesty by the youngins a faggot shouldn't speak on behalf of all gays , most as uncomfortable by that word"
Problem is when he dismisses everything that goes against his beliefs
"If Elon Musk who has Fuck you money talks about how Autistic people aren't discriminated against using his own experience, it doesn't matter at all"
Or
"Gay guy who defends calling Justin Bieber/whoever is considered Zesty by the youngins a faggot shouldn't speak on behalf of all gays , most as uncomfortable by that word"
Problem is when he dismisses everything that goes against his beliefs
missed the point like always
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Because you're so much smarter than the people behind the Oxford English Dictionary, right?
God you're so perfect. Everything you do and say is correct. You can never be wrong. You're such a thick dicked 350 iq king it drives me mad. How could I ever be more like you, the oh so venerable and wise Logiko?
God you're so perfect. Everything you do and say is correct. You can never be wrong. You're such a thick dicked 350 iq king it drives me mad. How could I ever be more like you, the oh so venerable and wise Logiko?
anti-logiko 101