Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1169 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Oh yeah there is no use powerscaling what marked Harald can do vs DR Xebec because Harald himself intends to keep what happens inside the closed secret, so there wont be crazy DC and shit.

old gaben's casual named attack vs goofy and zoro destroyed aurest castle's tower lol


how the fuck did that castle survive a domi xebec level monster, a df powered loki with ragnir, a younger gaben, and a young shank on top of 100s of giant guards?

 

[SakazOuki]

IMO it’s Fenrir, the wolf chained up by a red haired war god (who only had 1 arm after this) , who is prophesied to kill Odin.

So according to the nordic legends, he is so massive he can cross oceans
Is Zou also a devil fruit lol

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Harald recognizing his stupidity makes him a better character

no it just makes him a self aware retard

a retard nonetheless

 

[Albino 👑]

Being warlord level is nothing to be ashamed of

We already got Mihawk but better anyway

 

[Fujishiro]

Depends on how much control DR Harald has left, if he's using all he has to subconsciously hold back then yeah I guess.

I mean he seems perfectly coherent and sound of mind, and this part:

Giant guard: "How dare you...!! You are not our King Harald anymore!!"

Harald: "Don't be ridiculous. I'm still Harald... but now I'm a loyal servant of the “Great One”...
None will survive...!! I won't let a word of what's happening in this castle get out!!"

Says it all.

If I recall correctly there was not that much collateral damage in that area, no? Memory is fuzzy.

Yes only the castle was destroyed.

 

[Zoinks52]

Not if they dont know what it does, Harald didnt.

Hmm.

Well it's also a matter of what how Oda writes them.

Sengoku has always stereotypically been the "good" FA, but he's still an established ass kisser so maybe.

Akainu in terms of temperament seems unlikely....but if they gave him a reason, something that would appeal to his extremism I could see it. DR Akainu is a possibility imho.

 

[nik87]

Ayooo how strong Loki truly is with the legendary DF and Ragnir???

Almost as strong as Zoro...
...so pretty damn strong.
Probably stronger than Shanks.

 

[Fujishiro]

old gaben's casual named attack vs goofy and zoro destroyed aurest castle's tower lol


how the fuck did that castle survive a domi xebec level monster, a df powered loki with ragnir, a younger gaben, and a young shank on top of 100s of giant guards?

Plot lol, narrative trumps all lol.

The whole thing was kept contained inside the castle :

 

[SakazOuki]

How could you betray Wissho and Gigabull like this

Gigabull needs actual panel time, he will probably be wreaking havoc soon
We already had a long arc with Fujitora, no need to comment on that, he fights politically, it's decent but this is OP at the end of the day

 

[Zoinks52]

I mean he seems perfectly coherent and sound of mind, and this part:

Says it all.

Yes only the castle was destroyed.

Was there not a later part saying he had completely given in when Gaban and Ace's big bro showed up?

I do think he was likely trying to keep himself in check though, yes.

 

[Fujishiro]

Hmm.

Well it's also a matter of what how Oda writes them.

Sengoku has always stereotypically been the "good" FA, but he's still an established ass kisser so maybe.

Akainu in terms of temperament seems unlikely....but if they gave him a reason, something that would appeal to his extremism I could see it. DR Akainu is a possibility imho.

I mean if his superiors tell him, ''congrats you are promoted, now wear this mark as a sign of your promotion'' I dont think he would question it much lol.

Was there not a later part saying he had completely given in Gaban and Ace's big bro showed up?

I do think he was likely trying to keep himself in check though, yes.

Yes this is the part Im refering to. Hes telling them hes still Harald but serves the Great One, AKA hes given in to Imus command.

So according to the nordic legends, he is so massive he can cross oceans
Is Zou also a devil fruit lol

Zou is implied to have been a human that was cursed into becoming a giant elephant lol. Idk about it being a fruit because you know it would go against the logic of the verse.

 

[Zoinks52]

I mean if his superiors tell him, ''congrats you are promoted, now wear this mark as a sign of your promotion'' I dont think he would question it much lol.

I guess. But I keep thinking back to his rebelliousness towards the Gorobros in Dressrosa.

I'm not sure if someone as self willed as Akainu would just go along with unless they fed him some good excuse. But like I said it's possible.

Honestly we need to know more about the FA, Commander-in-Chief and how they relate to Gorosei/Imu...if all these guys have marks then it should be interesting.

I actually suspect Kuzan of maybe having one, IF he was sent by Imu to spy on/kill Blackbeard.

 

[Nekomamushi]

You know what's crazy - at the very beginning of Elbaf, in chapter 1131, we can clearly see that Ragnir is tied to a tree along with Loki.

Until now, many people have probably wondered - what's the point?

I guess we're on the verge of getting the answer.

Spoiler: 1131

 

[MonochromeYoru]

IMO it’s Fenrir, the wolf chained up by a red haired war god (who only had 1 arm after this) , who is prophesied to kill Odin.

isn't Fenrir Loki's son in norse mythology too?

i can see it being fenrir or surtur

 

[Fujishiro]

I guess. But I keep thinking back to his rebelliousness towards the Gorobros in Dressrosa.

I'm not sure if someone as self willed as Akainu would just go along with unless they fed him some good excuse. But like I said it's possible.

Honestly we need to know more about the FA, Commander-in-Chief and how they relate to Gorosei/Imu...if all these guys have marks then it should be interesting.

I actually suspect Kuzan of maybe having one, IF he was sent by Imu to spy on/kill Blackbeard.

Idk about Kuzan tbh, otherwise it would mean all admirals have the mark.

Btw I also think Shanks didnt nullify his connection with Imu, and that his arm will likely grow back if he comes near Imu.

 

[Paperchampion23]

The demons mentioned in the Harley could be Onis aka the Ancient Giants.

Oni's arent Ancient Giants, thats Kaido. And its far more likely imo the Devils the text is talking about is Devil Fruit because evidently they didnt exist in Nika's time, only afterwards

 

[Fujishiro]

You know what's crazy - at the very beginning of Elbaf, in chapter 1131, we can clearly see that Ragnir is tied to a tree along with Loki.

Until now, many people have probably wondered - what's the point?

I guess we're on the verge of getting the answer.

Spoiler: 1131

 

[Zoinks52]

Idk about Kuzan tbh, otherwise it would mean all admirals have the mark.

Not quite like that.

Remember that one scene where we saw a silhouette resembling Imu on Kuzan's glasses?

I've a theory that after he lost to Sakazuki, Imu may have secretly reached out to Kuzan and persuaded him to help take down BB, possibly giving him a mark in the process.

Btw I also think Shanks didnt nullify his connection with Imu, and that his arm will likely grow back if he comes near Imu.

How would that play out story wise, do you think they will meet again?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

isn't Fenrir Loki's son in norse mythology too?

i can see it being fenrir or surtur

Loki has Hel, Fenrir and the Midgard serpent as children but only Fenrir was dangerous enough to be tricked and bound by the gods and their friends

Tyr even was remorseful in some versions of having to trick Fenrir into this.

 

[Fujishiro]

Only the throne room is fucked up a bit @MonochromeYoru @Zoinks52​