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What is Ragnir ?


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Tyr even was remorseful in some versions of having to trick Fenrir into this.
The adaptation of myths I read described Fenrir as a pretty surly but not actively malicious guy who the gods chained up more out of preemptive fear than anything else.

In them, it was shown that Tyr disliked what he had to do because it was dishonourable (Fenrir did not know about Gleipnir's true power) or something like that.
 
Not quite like that.

Remember that one scene where we saw a silhouette resembling Imu on Kuzan's glasses?

I've a theory that after he lost to Sakazuki, Imu may have secretly reached out to Kuzan and persuaded him to help take down BB, possibly giving him a mark in the process.
Yeah I remember the Imu in Kuzans eye thing, I think its a stretch lol. Why wouldnt he take down BB when they met at that island if he could though.


How would that play out story wise, do you think they will meet again?
I do not know, it all hinges on if BB vs Shanks happens and how it goes, AKA does BB kill Shanks or does he spare him.​
 
All the soldiers died.
Jarul has a sword through his head.
Gaban and Shanks arrived later.
Elbaph people don't believe Loki.

Where's the issue?
Yeah honestly it is quite sad, and considering loki's personality, I doubt the giants would even trust what loki says, the only there who could save him is shanks but because he doesn't like his genes he won't.
 
You think it was him that told them he was Xebecs son?
Maybe.

Oddly enough I feel Teach is the kind of person to keep mum about his childhood. Judging from Oda's drawing of kid Teach it seems to have been traumatic.

But then again BB seems to have a surprising level of camaraderie with certain members of his crew...and I could see him telling his most powerful and trusted officers the true nature of his origin.
 
Maybe.

Oddly enough I feel Teach is the kind of person to keep mum about his childhood. Judging from Oda's drawing of kid Teach it seems to have been traumatic.

But then again BB seems to have a surprising level of camaraderie with certain members of his crew...and I could see him telling his most powerful and trusted officers the true nature of his origin.
I mean if Devon and Augur knew about his heritage then its safe to say they all do.
So shanks tricks loki to chain him up which is why loki is pissed off with him
I think hes mad at him because he stopped him from doing something reckless, like Idk avenging his father against Imu or something.
 
I mean if Devon and Augur knew about his heritage then its safe to say they all do.
Yeah that was what I was thinking of. Them, Lafitte, Burgess probably.....

Kuzan might know less than them though, he's newer, former Marine and far more capable of harming/killing Teach than anyone in the crew.

So I can see Teach telling him things but giving him less info compared to his core crewmembers...maybe that will change now that he has proved his loyalty with Garp's capture.
 
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