Speculations Does Shanks think Mihawk is grown up?

[Impact]

So, this is a question of if Shanks respects Mihawk as a person.

Does Shanks know that Mihawk had experienced both victory and defeat on his journey?

OR

Does Shanks think Mihawk is someone who had never grown up because he never suffered defeat?

We do know that Mihawk suffered a betrayal in his past.

I want to note that Mihawk may not have been beaten in a fair fight or even against another swordsman. He might've got overpowered by a group of people with devil fruit powers that made it impossible for him to win or something.

This is in-line with the thinking that you can't survive in the New World without being under one of the emperors or by being in direct competition with them.

Can he be a top swordsman while being defeated by people other than swordsmen? Yes. That title is only relative to swordsmen. It wouldn't matter if he was defeated by another type of fighter.

Anyway, this is just something to chew on. I hope you don't choke on it.

 

[Sugoi]

betrayal doesnt mean defeated

 

[Impact]

betrayal doesnt mean defeated

So nobody ever got the best of Mihawk according to you, got it.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

I don't like Mihawk fans, not because Mihawk is a bad character, but because Mihawk fans are usually just here to be hypercritical and aura farm. They represent an undesirable part of the fandom, and in-fact they display anti-fan behavior frequently.

Am I demonizing them? No, they demonized themselves. They wanted the attention, it's just negative attention.

"I don't like mihawk fans, they want attention and display anti-fan behavior. Now, let me create a thread to bash on mihawk" 🗿

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

So, this is a question of if Shanks respects Mihawk as a person.

Does Shanks know that Mihawk had experienced both victory and defeat on his journey?

OR

Does Shanks think Mihawk is someone who had never grown up because he never suffered defeat?

We do know that Mihawk suffered a betrayal in his past.

I want to note that Mihawk may not have been beaten in a fair fight or even against another swordsman. He might've got overpowered by a group of people with devil fruit powers that made it impossible for him to win or something.

This is in-line with the thinking that you can't survive in the New World without being under one of the emperors or by being in direct competition with them.

Can he be a top swordsman while being defeated by people other than swordsmen? Yes. That title is only relative to swordsmen. It wouldn't matter if he was defeated by another type of fighter.

Anyway, this is just something to chew on. I hope you don't choke on it.

I don't its him getting defeated, its most likely he lost someone dearly in the past, making him had a grudge towards marines cuz its because of them and start Marine Hunting. It wouldn't make sense if he got defeated and then got the title of Marine hunter after that, its more interesting that way since we see Zoro talking to S-Hawk that he is more humane than Mihawk. And tbh OG Warlord had a bunch of people holding grudge towards anyone and its been a theme on them.

1. Crocodile - Holding Grudge against WB in general cuz he got defeated, and then seek power in Pluton. After getting defeated by Luffy he then seek Utopia.

2. Moria - Holding a Grudge against Kaido because he got annihilated, got him even change his ideals. And even more overprotective towards his crew. Him alone attacking Hachinosu while Teach is there is amazing imo

3. Doflamingo - Holding a grudge against Celestial Dragon or World in general since they banished them because of his father choice and led that to him getting traumatic childhood experiences

4. Jinbe - Not exactly a grudge but hatred towards WG cuz when he wants coexistence, they reject him.

5. Boa Hancock - holding a grudge towards WG and World Nobles because of the enslavement, even willingly become a shichibukai just to make Kuja Islands safe.

6. Kuma - Holding a grudge against WG and World Nobles because of the suffering and Oppression that he and his loved ones get. But Deeply believes in Nika which makes him Saint that makes him and not lose control.

 

[Impact]

Alright, well, anybody saying Mihawk has never suffered any kind of defeat are also suggesting Shanks doesn't respect him as a grown person.

 

[zenox]

defeat is not just abt strength

 

[shadowdancer]

"I don't like mihawk fans, they want attention and display anti-fan behavior. Now, let me create a thread to bash on mihawk" 🗿

He must hate himself for seeking attention, according to his own words

 

[Impact]

I think a lot of you have problems.
- It's a nuance. Shanks thinks people who haven't dealt with victory and defeat haven't grown up, so he must not think much of Mihawk given that you all believe he is undefeatable in any way.

It is true, though, I do not like Mihawk fans. Mihawk is fine, I like him. Not you guys, though.

The biggest anti-fan group in the story, and they get sensitive any time someone says something about the guy. Hypercritical people can dish it, but they can't take it.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Vanlax]

-Shanks spoke of Luffy to Mihawk
-Shanks poured for Mihawk to drink with them

These are enough to realize Shanks respects Mihawk as a person.

-Does Shanks know Mihawk experienced defeat? This is self explanatory. The answer is yes.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Alright, well, anybody saying Mihawk has never suffered any kind of defeat are also suggesting Shanks doesn't respect him as a grown person.

That’s fine. Mihawk himself doesn’t respect Shanks so I guess that’s that

 

[nik87]

What is blud even asking about?

 

[Rukusho]

Mihawk wants to be defeated ... he acknowledges the world and wants to be challenged and defeated by someone notable and respected on the contrary Mihawk is actually the first to say what Shanks is saying in your post...

 

[Boiroy]

Who tf is this new clown guys

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

I think a lot of you have problems.
- It's a nuance. Shanks thinks people who haven't dealt with victory and defeat haven't grown up, so he must not think much of Mihawk given that you all believe he is undefeatable in any way.

It is true, though, I do not like Mihawk fans. Mihawk is fine, I like him. Not you guys, though.

The biggest anti-fan group in the story, and they get sensitive any time someone says something about the guy. Hypercritical people can dish it, but they can't take it.

If u want to talk and had a discussion ain't no way u are able to had a conclusion of that, u had Anti Mihawk agenda.
U talk to Finral that u guys hate Mihawk fans but when i specificly wanted to had a discussion, y'all suddenly didn't want to talk dead silent and saying things like this, its hypocrite.

Anyway Change it to Guys like Roger, especially WB who didn't suffered any defeat until Marineford that we know for now. Which is more logical? If Guys like Roger/WB suffers a great betrayal from a WG or Marines and it makes him do Marine Hunting, Did he suffered by getting defeated by Marines and do Marines hunting which makes him more getting hunt by the Marine who defeated him or its when he lose someone dearly to him from Marines so he holding a grudge to them?
So Shanks thinks guys like Roger and WB isn't a grown up?

 

[Impact]

That’s fine. Mihawk himself doesn’t respect Shanks so I guess that’s that

I am getting pretty tired of you saying "that's that" to people and thinking you've won an argument that way, and yet with that awful attitude you expect people not to insult you. You're a special boy, huh?

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If u want to talk and had a discussion ain't no way u are able to had a conclusion of that, u had Anti Mihawk agenda.
U talk to Finral that u guys hate Mihawk fans but when i specificly wanted to had a discussion, y'all suddenly didn't want to talk dead silent and saying things like this, its hypocrite.

Anyway Change it to Guys like Roger, especially WB who didn't suffered any defeat until Marineford that we know for now. Which is more logical? If Guys like Roger/WB suffers a great betrayal from a WG or Marines and it makes him do Marine Hunting, Did he suffered by getting defeated by Marines and do Marines hunting which makes him more getting hunt by the Marine who defeated him or its when he lose someone dearly to him from Marines so he holding a grudge to them?
So Shanks thinks guys like Roger and WB isn't a grown up?

To have a discussion, there must first be a shared sense of understanding (facts and logic). We don't have that. You can say it's because I'm stupid and don't understand anything, but that won't make it true. It would only be true in the sense that you personally believe that.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Mihawk wasn't born the WSS making this a weird thread

Obviously he lost some battles on the way to the top

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

am getting pretty tired of you saying "that's that" to people and thinking you've won an argument that way, and yet with that awful attitude you expect people not to insult you. You're a special boy, huh?

Are you gonna cry? Shut up bitch

 

[Impact]

Are you gonna cry? Shut up bitch

Dude, you were the one crying around about people insulting you.

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 11:55 AM

Mihawk wasn't born the WSS making this a weird thread

Obviously he lost some battles on the way to the top

That will actually be a point of contention. The majority will say that Mihawk went around challenging everybody and beat them all on his journey, and they will compare it to Ryuma defending Wano, so they will very easily get away with suggesting he did exactly that, since we have no information about his interactions. Pretty convenient.

However, this is a post about what Shanks thinks of him, and not necessarily what fans of Mihawk think. Shanks' belief contradicts what the fans of Mihawk suggest if they want Shanks to consider him a grown up individual. Although, they can just as easily say he doesn't care what Shanks thinks.

These intransigent people will probably suggest Mihawk simply doesn't care, so there was never a discussion to be had with any of them. Where it concerns things like Mihawk fighting Shanks or Big Mom, they will not compromise and say it's possible he may lose to them, and instead they will suggest something like they never challenged him, so fighting them was not relevant, or they may even suggest he did fight Big Mom before, and he won, but he doesn't care about fighting Shanks anymore because he lost an arm and he considers him a has-been.

When you look at the events of Marineford, Vista stalled him. Vista! Their stubborn argument with him is that he was "sandbagging" (voluntarily underperforming). They reject anti-feats when it's inconvenient, and they leech feats when it's convenient, and in all of this, they are unwilling to compromise on any of it. Mental gymnastics.