Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[ZenZu]

https://twitter.com/WorstGenHQ/status/2004170810697961734

@sanjikun when he read this

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

No it’s based on the timeline, Mihawk and Shanks dueled 12 years before the start of OP.

This flashback is 14 years before the present (so 2 from post time skip + 12 years ago).

So this event is literally in the same year as the Mihawk vs Shanks duel.

@Shiroyru @Kurozumi Wiwi sword fandom might genuinely be cooked right now

 

[HA001]

No it’s based on the timeline, Mihawk and Shanks dueled 12 years before the start of OP.

This flashback is 14 years before the present (so 2 from post time skip + 12 years ago).

So this event is literally in the same year as the Mihawk vs Shanks duel.

It never said when they stopped duelling AND mihawk knows who luffy is.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don’t think anyone actually wants powercliffing though

Like the idea that by the end of the series we find out that FA Akainu can stomp Kaido just makes a lot of things look goofy

Or that Shanks (with feats) could potentially wifi haki Big Mom or something. Stuff like that is cool on paper but it makes a lot of beloved characters look worse in the long run

Personally I feel like Oda is trying to dig himself out of this hole by showing that the GV fighters hadn’t reached their peaks yet so it at least makes a little more sense

I dont personally care about powerscaling, im just offering perspectives on what happens when you essentially only have 2 outcomes to an event that happened.

Imo making Loki extremely broken is "fine", but it depends on how the rest of this arc goes. If its fighting ImuGunko (which wont resolve Imu anyway), then its okay because Imu is the series endgame.

If its Luffy fighting a Domi Reversi'ed Loki or something, and then he wins......you see the problem right? How does anyone else outside of Imu have a chance against Luffy? If Shamrock comes back and his confidence against Loki is validated....also a problem if Luffy fights him.

Thats IF Shanks doesnt defeat Loki. If he does, then the above isnt a problem at all, because even if you dislike Akainu, Blackbeard or Shamrock being scaled up to unreasonable levels (already something people bitch about Shanks about) at least they pose threats to Luffy reliably.

 

[Djordje]

Didnt wb say 22 years ago? This shanks is around that age

Yeah thanks.

Harald died 14 years ago which makes Shanks 25 here.

 

[Paragorn]

Loki>Mihawk is actually canon lol

 

[Zoroe]

My question is if ragnir is like a guardian for elbaph then why does he allow Loki to attack elbaph

Ragnir is only a guardian for the DF

 

[TheD.]

Also @Elder Lee Hung apologize to the Ratatoskr fruit it’s above the yonko by itself

You should be first to apologize sir

 

[Definitivo]

"Imu, send me some Haki.

This is Ratatosk im up against."

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

My mind was thinking it being like a better version of Tama's Kibi Kibi with similar properties to BM's Soul Soul and Kuma's Paw Paw DFs.

Basically a hack support, with the drawbacks of not being intangible perhaps?

i think the drawback would be that the people you're buffing can "overdose" and die like how mortals die in mythology when drinking it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How do you know this is SHanks after Mihawk duels ?

Either I didnt connect the threads or you guys are just pulling this out of your ass ?

Because a year after this shanks makes base in the east blue meaning either Shanks fights Mihawk immediately after this or most likely before

 

[Rumble]

i think the drawback would be that the people you're buffing can "overdose" and die like how mortals die in mythology when drinking it

Like fent?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

You should be first to apologize sir

God I’m such a good power scaler holy shit I’m amazing

 

[MonochromeYoru]

I dont personally care about powerscaling, im just offering perspectives on what happens when you essentially only have 2 outcomes to an event that happened.

Imo making Loki extremely broken is "fine", but it depends on how the rest of this arc goes. If its fighting ImuGunko (which wont resolve Imu anyway), then its okay because Imu is the series endgame.

If its Luffy fighting a Domi Reversi'ed Loki or something, and then he wins......you see the problem right? How does anyone else outside of Imu have a chance against Luffy?

Thats IF Shanks doesnt defeat Loki. If he does, then the above isnt a problem at all, because even if you dislike Akainu, Blackbeard or Shamrock being scaled up to unreasonable levels (already something people bitch about Shanks about) at least they pose threats to Luffy reliably.

goofy is not fighting Loki lol

Loki being so fucking broken is NEEDED in this arc cause otherwise imu and the 2 hk just win straight up

 

[Djordje]

@Elder Lee Hung

I only stated truth

 

[SDfear]

Garp already explain how to defeat HK or DomiReversi guys to Roger but Roger probably forgot


Just use stronger CoC haki than your opponent is using

Shanks + Gaban CoC haki << Harold CoC haki
Ragnir + Loki >> Harold CoC haki

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Mihawk best feat in OP is dueling a Shanks that can’t even hurt Harald

 

[RayanOO]

That is Headcanon, Buggy and crocodile rewards are because one become yonko and the other for what he did in that 2 years but Mihawk is said because he is strongest swordman

Post the whole thing it’s better

The bounties obviously are after the ceos guild being formed and factored that fact

 

[soheilhazrat]

Mihawk best feat in OP is dueling a Shanks that can’t even hurt Harald

Nobody alone can hurt loki maybe besides joyboy and imu

 

[Crow]

Say what you will. If Harald weren't such a cuck and had more willpower his conqueror's would've been even stronger.