Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1170: REVERSE

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@Dragon777
What's your current take on how Loki has been handled? I know you're one of the OG fans who was kind of disappointed in what Oda was doing with him.
Mixed.

Character-wise, I don't really like this all "good character that has to look bad only because is totally misunderstood". I would have preferred something more... grey. Not to mention a lot of phrases don't really make sense now, for example the ones from Gaban.
Now, he might start doing something more "evil" down the line, maybe as a pirate. We have to see. I hope he also doesn't go along with Luffy too much.
To summarize, I want him to be a little more complex, a real "Loki, and less tsundere than how he seems now.

Power-level wise, instead, he went above and beyond. I didn't think he could be this broken.
 
Mixed.

Character-wise, I don't really like this all "good character that has to look bad only because is totally misunderstood". I would have preferred something more... grey. Not to mention a lot of phrases don't really make sense now, for example the ones from Gaban.
Now, he might start doing something more "evil" down the line, maybe as a pirate. We have to see. I hope he also doesn't go along with Luffy too much.
To summarize, I want him to be a little more complex, a real "Loki, and less tsundere than how he seems now.

Power-level wise, instead, he went above and beyond. I didn't think he could be this broken.
Yeah, I still would have liked Loki being an actual arc fight with underlings in Elbaf and everything(as sympathizers) and think it's kind of lame that him killing his father wasn't because of the fruit or the HK connections, but DR. Overall though, he seems like he'll be a fun addition to the cast though.

We would still need a reason for Shanks to tie him up though, so maybe Loki became actually kind of cruel after Haralds death though? Oda seems to emphasizing that both Shanks and Loki are good guys this flashback, so idk.
 
Yeah, I still would have liked Loki being an actual arc fight with underlings in Elbaf and everything(as sympathizers) and think it's kind of lame that him killing his father wasn't because of the fruit or the HK connections, but DR. Overall though, he seems like he'll be a fun addition to the cast though.

We would still need a reason for Shanks to tie him up though, so maybe Loki became actually kind of cruel after Haralds death though? Oda seems to emphasizing that both Shanks and Loki are good guys this flashback, so idk.
Yeah, character-wise he still clears Wano, but I hope there's some evolution tbh.
 
Also Loki is literally Yamato 2.0
"Look at this super strong rare race character that is a fan of this other legendary pirate he idolizes and dresses like, has a mythical zoan that is protector of the island and with advCoC!"
Prince /princess
Jailed/ or in distress
Freed by luffy
Luffy ask him to join
Luffy liberates the country
Wash rinse and repeat
Peak!!!!
 
I am trying to make you take a path of logic and you're hellbent on the nonsense path...
World Strongest Gender title... I thought I had seen it all but here we are.
You're trying to lead me down a path of ignorance and delusion, and you're failing pretty badly at doing it. Whitebeard's title being specifically about men is no stranger than Mihawk's title being specifically about sword users.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
You're trying to lead me down a path of ignorance and delusion, and you're failing pretty badly at doing it. Whitebeard's title being specifically about men is no stranger than Mihawk's title being specifically about sword users.
You are still wrong.
Kaido's title isnt about genders.
Neither is Mihawk's title.

When you put 2 and 2 together...
...you arrive at the conclusion that WB's title isnt about genders either.
You could now try to figure out what it is about instead but I already explained it.
 
So Ragnir's been protecting the fruit for centuries... which means objects that eat devil fruits don't age?

Anyway, this is another retcon or another lapse in memory from Oda since it was said that it was Vegapunk (a dude less than 70) who discovered the means to implant DFs into objects, another factoid which Oda never bothered to explain while on Egghead.
 
You are still wrong.
Kaido's title isnt about genders.
Neither is Mihawk's title.

When you put 2 and 2 together...
...you arrive at the conclusion that WB's title isnt about genders either.
You could now try to figure out what it is about instead but I already explained it.
Why do the titles have to describe the same things?

Kaido's title isn't about a combat style.
Neither is Whitebeard's title.

When you put 2 and 2 together...
...you arrive at the conclusion that Mihawk's title isn't about a combat style either.

I hope this helps you to realize how stupid this is.
 
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