Controversial Murbarak, the Largest Adult Male Hippo Runs the One Piece Pre-TS Gauntlet

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#21
We have Zoro and Sanji doing this to dinosaurs two arcs later after Arlong was beaten:



The hippo would just be a small snack for the t-rex.
Luffy one shots sea kings in the first chapters. Those would be gigantic terrifying monsters in our world and any decent East Blue pirate would easily deal with them. Even Alvida.

I can't believe it, this guy thinks Alvida cannot even deal with a hippo when she is part of a large world with animals easily dwarfing that hippo in both weigth and size.

Close the thread.
Fat Alvida only has a flintlock gun. Not strong enough to penetrate a sturdy adult male hippo. Also fat Alvida got one shot by a Ep. 1 East blue Luffy. She only terrorized a 12 yr old nerdy kid like Koby.
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Mate, if mass mattered in One Piece then 5ft 8 Luffy wouldn't be one shotting multi ton Giants like 22 metres tall (72ft) Hajrudin.

The mass argument is irrelevant for a superhuman One Piece character.
Based on a realistic analysis of hippopotamus physiology compared to the weapons you described, Alvida's iron mace (Kanabō) would be highly ineffective, while her flintlock pistol would be completely useless for killing an adult hippo.

Hippos are one of Africa's most dangerous and physically resilient large animals. To understand why the weapons fail, let's break down the hippo's defenses.

🦛 The Hippo's Natural Defenses

· Skin: Up to 2 inches (5 cm) thick, with a tough, rubbery hide that is difficult to penetrate and highly resistant to blunt force.
· Skull & Bone Structure: Extremely dense and thick bones, particularly in the skull, which can deflect blows and bullets.
· Fat & Muscle Layer: A massive subcutaneous fat layer and powerful muscles act as additional shock absorbers.
· Aggression & Vital Areas: A charging hippo presents a low, angled head, making its already thick skull the primary target. Its vital organs are well-protected within its barrel-shaped body.

⚔️ Weapon Analysis: Kanabō (Iron Mace)

The Kanabō is a historically devastating weapon against armored humans and structures. However, it is poorly suited for this task.

· Weapon Strengths: Designed to crush armor and break wooden gates through sheer blunt force.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The hippo's combination of thick skin, a heavy fat layer, and immensely dense bones would absorb and disperse the impact of a bludgeoning attack. Even a powerful swing would likely cause superficial bruising at best, failing to reach vital organs or cause fatal skull trauma. The spikes might tear the skin, but wouldn't create a deep, lethal wound.

Verdict: Highly ineffective. It would anger the hippo but not kill it.

🔫 Weapon Analysis: Flintlock Pistol

A typical black-powder flintlock pistol is wholly inadequate against an animal of this size.

· Weapon Limitations: Low muzzle velocity, inaccurate, and fires a relatively small, low-energy round ball.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The ball would likely fail to penetrate the hippo's thick hide and underlying fat layer. Even a lucky hit to the head would probably ricochet off the dense skull. It could not reach the brain or heart.

Verdict: Completely useless.

⚖️ Final Verdict

To kill an adult hippo, you would need a modern, high-powered rifle with appropriate ammunition, requiring precise shot placement.

Neither of Alvida's weapons, operating under realistic constraints, is capable of achieving this.
 
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Fat Alvida only has a flintlock gun. Not strong enough to penetrate a sturdy adult male hippo. Also fat Alvida got one shot by a Ep. 1 East blue Luffy. She only terrorized a 12 yr old nerdy kid like Koby.
Ep. 1 EB Luffy would kill the hippo with his punch. Your point?

The pistol isn't even Alvida's main weapon. She uses a club and is able to break the ground with a single hit. She's fodder but try to understand this: By our standards, even the likes of Alvida are superhumans when it comes to strength. Shanks is like what? 175lbs? Yet he's capable to destroy islands.
 
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Dude, even the weakest Pre-TS villains would be superhumans in our world. Luffy one shot a huge seaking in the first chapters and you have? Alvida? The rest being fishmen AND Don Krieg? Comparing them to some rl hippo? I'd just join the memeing but it seems you're serious about this match-up...
It’s hilarious you guys think a Ep. 1 Fat Alvida scales to the likes of an average Fishman, or even Don Krieg. Like where do you guys get this confidence in Fat Alvida from? Surviving? Lmao
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Ep. 1 EB Luffy would kill the hippo with his punch. Your point?

The pistol isn't even Alvida's main weapon. She uses a club and is able to break the ground with a single hit. She's fodder but try to understand this: By our standards, even the likes of Alvida are superhumans when it comes to strength. Shanks is like what? 175lbs? Yet he's capable to destroy islands.
TLDR Alvida dies and is chomped to death by Murbarak. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
Weapon Analysis: Kanabō (Iron Mace)

The Kanabō is a historically devastating weapon against armored humans and structures. However, it is poorly suited for this task.

· Weapon Strengths: Designed to crush armor and break wooden gates through sheer blunt force.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The hippo's combination of thick skin, a heavy fat layer, and immensely dense bones would absorb and disperse the impact of a bludgeoning attack. Even a powerful swing would likely cause superficial bruising at best, failing to reach vital organs or cause fatal skull trauma. The spikes might tear the skin, but wouldn't create a deep, lethal wound.

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I must admit. This thread is hilarious. I didn’t believe it before but I’m sure like 99% now that an Adult male hippo chad kills fat Alvida.

 
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Fat Alvida is weak as fuck. What puts her over a masculine testosterone filled Adult Prime Hippo?
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Do you think the Hippo rizz would work on Fat Alvida?
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Fat Alvida has 0 feats to help her defeat a prime Hippo
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The only land animal that can beat a hippo in a one-on-one fight is an elephant
Meaning an Adult male Hippo is nearly Jack the drought level.
Are you seriously trying to argue that Jack is as strong as actual elephant because most if not all Zoans are obviously stronger than the their animals counterpart

Jack has survived being blasted by a being the size of an island and can destroy superhuman animal human and several builings by accidents with a swing of it's trunk

Lucci for example could was strong enough to overpower Luffy and Zorro at the same time and Luffy by that time was already destroying building the size of mansions,breaking through bedrock and lifting massive bells

Zoro was also lifting entire buildings

If real Leopards were even half as strong as Lucci then humanity would have gone exict long ago
 
#25
Are you seriously trying to argue that Jack is as strong as actual elephant because most if not all Zoans are obviously stronger than the their animals counterpart

Jack has survived being blasted by a being the size of an island and can destroy superhuman animal human and several builings by accidents with a swing of it's trunk

Lucci for example could was strong enough to overpower Luffy and Zorro at the same time and Luffy by that time was already destroying building the size of mansions,breaking through bedrock and lifting massive bells

Zoro was also lifting entire buildings

If real Leopards were even half as strong as Lucci then humanity would have gone exict long ago
All this doesn’t negate the fact that Fat Alvida is dying right now in the maw of Murbarak.
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https://a-z-animals.com/media/2021/10/Animals-With-the-Toughest-Skin-Hippopotamus-1024x535.jpg

Upgrading the steel-covered hippo to the largest male on record, Murbarak, makes the outcome even more decisive. Murbarak would defeat Alvida without question.

Key Differences: Murbarak vs. Average Hippo

While the conclusion remains the same, Murbarak's exceptional size makes the mismatch even more extreme.

· Exceptional Size: Murbarak weighed an estimated 4,500 kg (9,920 lbs), which is significantly heavier than an average large male hippo (typically 1,600-3,200 kg). This immense mass means his charges would carry even more force.
· Unchanged Defense: The critical factor remains the steel plate on his back, which completely neutralizes Alvida's primary weapon. This defense does not change with size.

🦛 Battle Analysis: Fat Alvida vs. Murbarak (Steel-Reinforced)

To see why Murbarak is an even more overwhelming opponent, here are the key points of comparison:

Murbarak the Hippo

· Status: Largest recorded male hippo (4,500 kg)
· Primary Advantage: Impenetrable steel defense on back; immense size and bite force
· Win Condition: A single successful charge or bite

Fat Alvida ("Iron Mace")

· Status: Human-level pirate captain, pre-Devil Fruit powers
· Primary Advantage: Strong for a human; skilled with a heavy iron mace
· Win Condition: Multiple perfect strikes to tiny, unprotected weak points

Final Verdict

Murbarak's record-breaking size amplifies his already overwhelming advantages in strength and durability. Against Alvida, who has no way to bypass his steel armor and lacks supernatural defenses, Murbarak would secure a swift and certain victory
 
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It’s hilarious you guys think a Ep. 1 Fat Alvida scales to the likes of an average Fishman, or even Don Krieg. Like where do you guys get this confidence in Fat Alvida from? Surviving? Lmao
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TLDR Alvida dies and is chomped to death by Murbarak. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
Weapon Analysis: Kanabō (Iron Mace)

The Kanabō is a historically devastating weapon against armored humans and structures. However, it is poorly suited for this task.

· Weapon Strengths: Designed to crush armor and break wooden gates through sheer blunt force.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The hippo's combination of thick skin, a heavy fat layer, and immensely dense bones would absorb and disperse the impact of a bludgeoning attack. Even a powerful swing would likely cause superficial bruising at best, failing to reach vital organs or cause fatal skull trauma. The spikes might tear the skin, but wouldn't create a deep, lethal wound.

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I must admit. This thread is hilarious. I didn’t believe it before but I’m sure like 99% now that an Adult male hippo chad kills fat Alvida.

I love hippos as much as the next guy but they're not even as strong as the sea king Luffy one shot in chapter one lol
 
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Based on a realistic analysis of hippopotamus physiology compared to the weapons you described, Alvida's iron mace (Kanabō) would be highly ineffective, while her flintlock pistol would be completely useless for killing an adult hippo.

Hippos are one of Africa's most dangerous and physically resilient large animals. To understand why the weapons fail, let's break down the hippo's defenses.

🦛 The Hippo's Natural Defenses

· Skin: Up to 2 inches (5 cm) thick, with a tough, rubbery hide that is difficult to penetrate and highly resistant to blunt force.
· Skull & Bone Structure: Extremely dense and thick bones, particularly in the skull, which can deflect blows and bullets.
· Fat & Muscle Layer: A massive subcutaneous fat layer and powerful muscles act as additional shock absorbers.
· Aggression & Vital Areas: A charging hippo presents a low, angled head, making its already thick skull the primary target. Its vital organs are well-protected within its barrel-shaped body.

⚔️ Weapon Analysis: Kanabō (Iron Mace)

The Kanabō is a historically devastating weapon against armored humans and structures. However, it is poorly suited for this task.

· Weapon Strengths: Designed to crush armor and break wooden gates through sheer blunt force.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The hippo's combination of thick skin, a heavy fat layer, and immensely dense bones would absorb and disperse the impact of a bludgeoning attack. Even a powerful swing would likely cause superficial bruising at best, failing to reach vital organs or cause fatal skull trauma. The spikes might tear the skin, but wouldn't create a deep, lethal wound.

Verdict: Highly ineffective. It would anger the hippo but not kill it.

🔫 Weapon Analysis: Flintlock Pistol

A typical black-powder flintlock pistol is wholly inadequate against an animal of this size.

· Weapon Limitations: Low muzzle velocity, inaccurate, and fires a relatively small, low-energy round ball.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The ball would likely fail to penetrate the hippo's thick hide and underlying fat layer. Even a lucky hit to the head would probably ricochet off the dense skull. It could not reach the brain or heart.

Verdict: Completely useless.

⚖️ Final Verdict

To kill an adult hippo, you would need a modern, high-powered rifle with appropriate ammunition, requiring precise shot placement.

Neither of Alvida's weapons, operating under realistic constraints, is capable of achieving this.
1) I didn't even mention weapons in my post that you quoted. I talked about mass cause you were talking about mass. Again, mass matters little in One Piece.

2) Did you tell you lover Chat GTPiss that the club was being wielded by a superhuman? Cause the whole "this weapon would be ineffective" spiel is clearly assuming a regular real life human is wielding it.
 
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It’s hilarious you guys think a Ep. 1 Fat Alvida scales to the likes of an average Fishman, or even Don Krieg. Like where do you guys get this confidence in Fat Alvida from? Surviving? Lmao
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TLDR Alvida dies and is chomped to death by Murbarak. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
Weapon Analysis: Kanabō (Iron Mace)

The Kanabō is a historically devastating weapon against armored humans and structures. However, it is poorly suited for this task.

· Weapon Strengths: Designed to crush armor and break wooden gates through sheer blunt force.
· Against Hippo Defenses: The hippo's combination of thick skin, a heavy fat layer, and immensely dense bones would absorb and disperse the impact of a bludgeoning attack. Even a powerful swing would likely cause superficial bruising at best, failing to reach vital organs or cause fatal skull trauma. The spikes might tear the skin, but wouldn't create a deep, lethal wound.

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I must admit. This thread is hilarious. I didn’t believe it before but I’m sure like 99% now that an Adult male hippo chad kills fat Alvida.

ChatGPT says all that stuff because it assumes a normal human is wielding the club. Idk what questions you asked but you have to give more details and context. Then ChatGPT says this:

Step 3: Real Hippo vs. One Piece Scaling

  • A 10,000 lb real hippo is massive in real life, but in One Piece logic:
    • Alvida has fought creatures far larger than 4–5 tons (or at least survived punches capable of knocking her across 500 m).
    • The force she can generate with her club could plausibly injure, knock back, or even defeat a real hippo if we accept One Piece’s exaggerated physics.
Key insight: In One Piece, “real-world mass” doesn’t strictly matter. A character’s durability and relative strength often allow them to contend with creatures far beyond realistic physics.

Idk why you think a rl hippo would beat a known East Blue pirate but we literally have child Luffy training with large animals. Alvida surviving a stronger punch than the one knocking out sea kings already puts her significantly above any rl animal.

Fishmen are also on a completely different level. Put Alvida aside, how do you even think some hippo can deal with any of these characters?
 
#33
-Really good post
-Guts beats Arlong in raw strength
Choose one

OT, Guts gets destroyed by Hachi in raw strength let alone Arlong, the reason is quite clearly stated in my “good post”
You just need to reread Berserk man I don't know what else to tell you lol. Arlong lifting buildings and what not is cool but it's not like Guts hasn't done similar things.
Dude can lift the Dragon Slayer with his bare fucking teeth :risisweat:
 
#34
You just need to reread Berserk man I don't know what else to tell you lol. Arlong lifting buildings and what not is cool but it's not like Guts hasn't done similar things.
Dude can lift the Dragon Slayer with his bare fucking teeth :risisweat:
Arlong didn’t just lift a building, he plucked a two story building off the ground with his grip strength alone
Hachi wielded 6 swords each weighing 300kgs, spun them around over his head at blinding speeds lol
 
#40
I'm pretty sure this is just turning into the argument you had with Lee Hung, and if you didn't care to concede then I don't think you'll do it now
So I'll forfeit here lol
I mean with Lee the difference in force output was quite big according to chatgpt lol
Hachi produced more than 3 times the force per second, and overhead, a position that is extremely more difficult to generate power from
 
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