it's funny to me how the only way socialism can work in these people's mind is only if everybody and their momma joins a socialist state

meanwhile China and Vietnam seem to be doing okay with their "market socialism" without the need to spread it lol
I do not subscribe to the newly appeared socialist ideas. It's a terrible trend and it only came alive in countries that have clearly had 0 experience with it.
 
I do not subscribe to the newly appeared socialist ideas. It's a terrible trend and it only came alive in countries that have clearly had 0 experience with it.
I am not inherently against socialism, just think it's ineffective and highly retarded if the only way to obtain socialism is if every single country in the world hops on board lmao
 
Which country's people's lives have dramatically become better due to US involvement in their natural resources?

Not the ruling class or wealthy or politicians of that country. The actual poor.
You do realise most of these poor people were fucked over anyways right? Most of the country was starving without electricity. Even getting basic human services would be a huge upgrade to their current lifestyle
 
I do not subscribe to the newly appeared socialist ideas. It's a terrible trend and it only came alive in countries that have clearly had 0 experience with it.
People in the comforts of their first world countries telling people who’ve actually endured the hardships of socialism how it’s a better system is hilarious. Reminds me of people who’re complaining when Venezuelans are celebrating
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i would rather you not pussy away from convos so you could start replying memes and ranting about how everyone is a commie to no one
Concession accepted
 
You do realise most of these poor people were fucked over anyways right? Most of the country was starving without electricity. Even getting basic human services would be a huge upgrade to their current lifestyle
From the “slaves should thank us for the opportunity” school of thought lol.

listen we own you now, but you were savages, so get to suckin
 
You are pushing for a system she's very well aware of. That's my point, it's pretty funny to see
The human brain is a strange machine. It create biases. And a lot of people think they know a lot of things about a lot of other things.

Are they right? Perhaps, but the argument of "living in a society" is not solid enough to determinate this. I live in the same society I lived a few years ago and yet, I now understand and feel the impact that I denied before.

You want to understand capitalism and socialism? It will take you more than your own biases.
 
The conditions the socialist dictator had the poor people in his own country going through like depriving them of basic human rights is very akin to slavery, yes
And you have to pretend we are bringing freedom and not just pillaging and installing someone we want, or we are pro Maduro.

Yeah, I agree Maduro deprived them of basic human rights. We don’t give a fuck if they have them, we just care that the commie is out. We are already allying with some far right dictators in central/South America, so why would I pretend we are anti dictatorship and repression of the people and not just against it if they are socialist? I’m against dictators socialist or otherwise. I believe that basic human rights will still be suppressed, and the best counter you have to that is “REEE VENEZUELANS WOULE BEAT YOU UP REEE” and running away to post memes to no one.

i, you, natalija, all know this isn’t to give them all human rights lmfao. That’s why instead of engaging you started posting shitty memes to no one, pussy.
 
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