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Yes, all the truths.
Most people aren't stupid, they are cowards.
See how many people go from denial straight to 'boo too there's nothing we can do about it anyway but be content with our status as slaves'. We can witness the same phenomenon when it comes to climate change and government&corporate corruption in general.
Cowards. Not stupid. Not mean spirited. Maybe lazy but first and foremost, cowards.
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To them, the crumbs from the kings' tables look like enough of a benefit because their standards have become so low they are unaware of what they and we all could have if we got rid of the useless leeches that suck us all dry.
Most people aren't stupid, they are cowards.
See how many people go from denial straight to 'boo too there's nothing we can do about it anyway but be content with our status as slaves'. We can witness the same phenomenon when it comes to climate change and government&corporate corruption in general.
Cowards. Not stupid. Not mean spirited. Maybe lazy but first and foremost, cowards.
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Guarantee that all the people stumping for capitalism think they’re gonna benefit from it someday, love to support a system where a thousand people own 99 percent of the global wealth and tell the rest of us we can get a piece despite there being no evidence to indicate that will ever happen 
Guarantee that all the people stumping for capitalism think they’re gonna benefit from it someday, love to support a system where a thousand people own 99 percent of the global wealth and tell the rest of us we can get a piece despite there being no evidence to indicate that will ever happen
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There’s absolutely no such thing as a self-made billionaire; unless you come from money or abandon all sense of morality and earn your profits off the backs of others, it’s just not gonna happen for you no matter how slavishly you devote yourself to some dead end job
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There’s absolutely no such thing as a self-made billionaire; unless you come from money or abandon all sense of morality and earn your profits off the backs of others, it’s just not gonna happen for you no matter how slavishly you devote yourself to some dead end job
I believe the lens you are looking at society with is completely biases here and perhaps I prevented you from understanding by talking about incentive. When I talk about incentive in this context, I'm talking about the one we have today. Being mostly money and social recognition. But in a socialist world, there will still be incentive, people won't work only for the fun of it (some could but not all), the incentive and social reward will simply take a new shape.
Also, it's important to understand that we still can work without incentive. It's the reason why artist do art in the first place. Not because it's art; art is no different from any other field of work. But because we put a different value on the field of art, that pushes us - socially - to seek this kind of work. This can be achieve with anything. That's one of the main thing that will change in a socialist society. A simple field work will be valued just as much as being an artist.
Do you really think human nature exist? What is "human nature" to you? can you define it?
In a market yeah. But socialism is not a market society, it's a collaborative one. It's completely different.
The "old versions":
Orthodox marxism > The one of Marx and Engels, you could say the basis of the ideas (historical materialism)
Leninism marxism> The extention of Marxism by Lenine to include a dictature of the proleteriat and a new form of organization to create a state of transition
Maoism > Concentrated on the revolution coming from farmers and guerillas.
Trotskysm > Opposed to Leninism. It's the idea that the revolution can only be international an never-ending. "We will become communist when everyone become communist" if you want..
The "modern" version of marxism:
- Libertarian marxism : It will be a form of marxism concentrated on anti-state politics and values. With a more horyzontal form of activism.
- Feminist marxism/ Antiracist marxism : Forms of marxism that will be concentrated and articulated mostly around antiracism and feminism (mainly in the last century)
- Intersectionnal and anti-imperialist marxism (that would be the one I'm the closest of): It's a form of marxism that takes intersectionnality and pushes it through a historical materialist lens to allow lots of articulation around many types of domination systems such as imperialism, patriarchy, systemic racism, ableism etc. It's very powerfull to understand the interconnections of domination systems. (you can see here that my politicization was very fast because of that).
- And others... Marxism can be deluded in many other leftist ideologies. It's a scientific reading grid more than everything.
Trust me, you don't want the US to meddle with your leaders. You don't want to be a servant of their politics. They will destroy you before you can say "revolução"
Really not. Million upon millions of death. Compared to the wrath and destruction of capitalism for generations, communism is a small player. And Venezuela is still capitalist btw.. It was just completely shocked up by the US and the rest of the world for decades.
Without these sanctions and without US's interventions, Venezuela could have become a much better place. But capitalist gonna be capitalist.
They don't want competitions.
Also, it's important to understand that we still can work without incentive. It's the reason why artist do art in the first place. Not because it's art; art is no different from any other field of work. But because we put a different value on the field of art, that pushes us - socially - to seek this kind of work. This can be achieve with anything. That's one of the main thing that will change in a socialist society. A simple field work will be valued just as much as being an artist.
Do you really think human nature exist? What is "human nature" to you? can you define it?
In a market yeah. But socialism is not a market society, it's a collaborative one. It's completely different.
The "old versions":
Orthodox marxism > The one of Marx and Engels, you could say the basis of the ideas (historical materialism)
Leninism marxism> The extention of Marxism by Lenine to include a dictature of the proleteriat and a new form of organization to create a state of transition
Maoism > Concentrated on the revolution coming from farmers and guerillas.
Trotskysm > Opposed to Leninism. It's the idea that the revolution can only be international an never-ending. "We will become communist when everyone become communist" if you want..
The "modern" version of marxism:
- Libertarian marxism : It will be a form of marxism concentrated on anti-state politics and values. With a more horyzontal form of activism.
- Feminist marxism/ Antiracist marxism : Forms of marxism that will be concentrated and articulated mostly around antiracism and feminism (mainly in the last century)
- Intersectionnal and anti-imperialist marxism (that would be the one I'm the closest of): It's a form of marxism that takes intersectionnality and pushes it through a historical materialist lens to allow lots of articulation around many types of domination systems such as imperialism, patriarchy, systemic racism, ableism etc. It's very powerfull to understand the interconnections of domination systems. (you can see here that my politicization was very fast because of that).
- And others... Marxism can be deluded in many other leftist ideologies. It's a scientific reading grid more than everything.
Trust me, you don't want the US to meddle with your leaders. You don't want to be a servant of their politics. They will destroy you before you can say "revolução"
But if you'd rather switch to Venezuela's method, go ahead 
Without these sanctions and without US's interventions, Venezuela could have become a much better place. But capitalist gonna be capitalist.
They don't want competitions.
Nah, that would be trotskysm rather. Libertarian simply means stateless and anti-authoritative in this case. (I'm not sure about the word to be honest, it's too close to libertarianism which would be capitalism on steroids.)
You would be wise not to underestimate the power of social organization. We are much better collaborators that you seems to think. You simply has been living in nothing but a competitive world, so it's hard to graps I get it.. but collaboration can be done. In fact it was the basis of pre-neolithical societies.
You would be wise not to underestimate the power of social organization. We are much better collaborators that you seems to think. You simply has been living in nothing but a competitive world, so it's hard to graps I get it.. but collaboration can be done. In fact it was the basis of pre-neolithical societies.
In order to for libertarian marxism to work you need to convince people to become socialist…aka what I said lmao
brother I don’t know what to tell you, time only moves forward. Using pre-neolithical societies to push for your economic system is like me using the great Roman Empire to push for autocracy
brother I don’t know what to tell you, time only moves forward. Using pre-neolithical societies to push for your economic system is like me using the great Roman Empire to push for autocracy
Well.. yeah. But that's a basic standard for leftism.
I mean. If you prefer to be exploited by capitalist and potentially subjugated by imperialist go for it. If having no protection over your rights is good for you, go for it... If you want to live in a world of wolf rather than a world of humans.. go for it.
But I prefer cooperation. That would be the most ethical, scientifical, rationnal and peacefull way to act and prosper.
I mean. If you prefer to be exploited by capitalist and potentially subjugated by imperialist go for it. If having no protection over your rights is good for you, go for it... If you want to live in a world of wolf rather than a world of humans.. go for it.
But I prefer cooperation. That would be the most ethical, scientifical, rationnal and peacefull way to act and prosper.
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No. I live in a world of colors. I see the entire spectra of light and shadows. I see the nuances, I see the contrast. I see the highlights and I see the darkness.
You might be seeing my radicalism as a lack of nuance, but in reality I went through this phase long ago. Understanding that nuances are not always an option is part of a nuanced journey.
I'm not against capitalism simply because of a black and white vision of the world I'm against it because I know - through my knowledge of its nuances, highlights and darkness - that capitalism's structural essence can only create oppression and will never, absolutely never create a world in which we can live happy and peacefull.
The social progress that you may be benefiting from today are battles won AGAINST capitalism. Not with.
So we must get rid of it and create something new.
You might be seeing my radicalism as a lack of nuance, but in reality I went through this phase long ago. Understanding that nuances are not always an option is part of a nuanced journey.
I'm not against capitalism simply because of a black and white vision of the world I'm against it because I know - through my knowledge of its nuances, highlights and darkness - that capitalism's structural essence can only create oppression and will never, absolutely never create a world in which we can live happy and peacefull.
The social progress that you may be benefiting from today are battles won AGAINST capitalism. Not with.
So we must get rid of it and create something new.
Having lived in the capital of capitalism my entire life, I can assure you that this evil is pretty monumental, which is why I doubt socialism would be worse than the rampant unchecked greed I see here every single day 