Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

[Fn Lucci]

You see guys, Oda showed Harald and Xebec going even multiple times with neither getting a clear upper hand throughout their entire lives but in reality Xebec is much stronger because I feel like he is.

Also, Imu gave out his strongest contract, domi reversi, to literal fodder and not his strongest slave Harald because I just kinda think he did.

And also, while Loki actually did kill Harald it was only after Harald let him. Loki didn’t overpower Harald or anything to restore his self control it just kind of happened because.

And Harald never overpowered Gaban and Shanks, in fact, Gaban rapidly got 10000x weaker right after retiring and this Shanks is 3x weaker than the one that fought Mihawk in front of Whitebeard a couple months ago because that’s kind of just what the vibes are telling me.

Thoughts @Elder Lee Hung @Kurozumi Wiwi

Lol dude. This chapter has Imu surprised that someone beat Harald. You're not gonna tell me that Loki was stronger than the White beard from back then

 

[OPKnK]

In the same chapter we had a statement about Harald > Prime WB/Kaido/BM and so on?

I get that Luffy are BB ARE GOING TO BE, but now are not. BB doesn't even has feats as of now.

Like i said we had Imu thinking that which is hype but we also had other characters think certain thing and being wrong .
People seem to forget that harald him self said that loki would be able to kill him with the DF and that why he told him to eat it .
To me the most important aspect is how he was able to kill him .
If it because of the DF + haki then make sense why Imu though he could not be killed because crazy DF.
Also BB got a feat the man beat law lol.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

In the same chapter we had a statement about Harald > Prime WB/Kaido/BM and so on?

I get that Luffy are BB ARE GOING TO BE, but now are not. BB doesn't even has feats as of now.

Yeah and Imu doesn’t know Harald let Loki kill him…

 

[Paperchampion23]

Easy to say that to someone in chains


He takes after his father

And on the other end of that we know that one of the twins is broken as fuck without contract powers. Apply that logic to Shamrock with those powers and you see the possibility.

All im saying is you cant discount that yet.

 

[Dragon777]

Like i said we had Imu thinking that which is hype but we also had other characters think certain thing and being wrong .
People seem to forget that harald him self said that loki would be able to kill him with the DF and that why he told him to eat it .
To me the most important aspect is how he was able to kill him .
If it because of the DF + haki then make sense why Imu though he could not be killed because crazy DF.
Also BB got a feat the man beat law lol.

The fact Is Imu's words check with feats.
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Yeah and Imu doesn’t know Harald let Loki kill him…

But since Loki dominated Harald, at best one could say he would have outlasted him. Someone stronger than prime WB.

But anyway, Harald being back to his senses was thanks to Loki anyway.

 

[OPKnK]

Luffy Is not going to leave the island stronger than Loki unless you think Luffy is leaving Erbaf stronger than Prime WB and Roger too.

Luffy is already at Prime WB and Roger level if not for his nerf .
Think about it if luffy could fight in G5 for a few hours who could beat him other than BB and Imu ?
With this arc he get better at ACoC he already know FS and his CoO also improve this arc and know all Advance version of CoA.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Lol dude. This chapter has Imu surprised that someone beat Harald. You're not gonna tell me that Loki was stronger than the White beard from back then

Loki is easily stronger than the Whitebeard from back then

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

I don’t really understand the light hearted tone they’re taking for Elbaf tbh

They turned up the colorfulness by like 100 notches if the preview is anything to go by

Yeah feels like a good chunk of the characters have pink hair specifically for some reason. Purple is quite rare though (I think?)

Yeah I can't really think of any purple hair characters. Brulee? Katakuri? Cracker? Although they're siblings too ofc lol. Red, blue and green seem especially rare for some reason. Orange too.

I agree too, its too colourful and bright, I think its to make it more appealing to the masses and especially children and emphasise Oda wanting the series to be more "cartoony" post Gear 5 but I hate it. They're trying way too hard, its blinding and obnoxious and it doesn't fit the much darker storylines post TS has been doing especially since WCI and Wano too.

 

[KageFumi]

As if people didnt fail enough at power scaling before Loki, after Loki they doubled down on terrible takes...

Just wait when Zoro give us feat more than loki, or maybe when loki himself hyping up Zoro, people will instantly stop over hyping loki, like always.

 

[Dragon777]

Luffy is already at Prime WB and Roger level if not for his nerf .
Think about it if luffy could fight in G5 for a few hours who could beat him other than BB and Imu ?
With this arc he get better at ACoC he already know FS and his CoO also improve this arc and know all Advance version of CoA.

I agree that an hypothetical Luffy with perma G5 would be on Prime Roger/WB level. In G5 he Is at that level, yeah.

However, the duration seems to be the problem.

 

[Bil02]

Lol dude. This chapter has Imu surprised that someone beat Harald. You're not gonna tell me that Loki was stronger than the White beard from back then

Everything points to him being.
I feel like the only reason people have a problem to scale Loki that high is because it basically comes out of nowhere.
If it was an established character like Mihawk or Dragon/Akainu,barely anyone would've batted an eye.

 

[Dragon777]

Lol dude. This chapter has Imu surprised that someone beat Harald. You're not gonna tell me that Loki was stronger than the White beard from back then

It's literally spelled out.

Not to mention It was already because HK Harald > Harald/Xebec > prime WB, and Loki was clearly superior to even HK Harald.

 

[VoaV]

-Kaido/WB/BM shoul've been in their prime at this point of time yet Imu thought nobody could beat Harald
-This is consistent powerscaling wise, it's just that for some rease some people refuse to admit Harald ~ Xebec and thus his boosted version was undeniably above any old gen character
-Even if I were to take for granted that Shanks defeated Loki in 1 vs 1, it means the "child of destiny" is that strong and that the old gen will get powercliffed like crazy by EOS (Roger + Primebeard together won't push EOS Luffy past low diff)
Loki floor is clearly yonko level +, this is not changing. (that also explains why Oda had him get weakened before the action starts)

15 years old loki floor is > than Demon harald and domi xebec curently who know how much he evolved this guy is the truth

 

[TheD.]

Watch Luffy say “this guys stronger than kaido” In a couple chapters Oda has been making too many connections with loki and kaido for it not to be brought up again.once luffy says this lanjikun must delete his acc

 

[Rootbeer]

Someone stronger than prime WB.

Wrong.. Power scaling all over the place..

 

[OPKnK]

No, it’s you who has not been paying attention in the slightest. At absolutely no point in this manga has Luffy left the arc as the strongest character, I don’t think this has happened since like, Arlong Park.

Was Loguetown Luffy stronger than Dragon?

Was Little Garden Luffy stronger than 1.8 billion Dorry and Broggy?

Was Alabasta Luffy stronger than Smoker and Ace?

Was Jaya Luffy stronger than Yami Teach?

Was LRLL Luffy stronger than Aokiji?

Was Enies Lobby Luffy stronger than Garp?

Was Thriller Barc Luffy stronger than Kuma?

Was Shabondy Luffy stronger than Rayleigh?

Was Amazon Lily Luffy stronger than Hancock?

Was Impel Down Luffy stronger than Magellan, Crocodile, Jinbe, or Ivankov?

Was Marineford Luffy stronger than Whitebeard?

Was Punk Hazard Luffy stronger than Kuzan?

Was Dressrosa Luffy stronger than Fujitora?

Was WCI Luffy stronger than Big Mom?

Was Wano Luffy stronger than Kaido?

Was Egghead Luffy stronger than Emeth?

What is this mythical manga you are reading where Luffy always winds up as the strongest character? Oda has already set the precedent with characters like Hancock and Rayleigh being Luffy’s cheerleader despite being much stronger than him, what manga are you reading sir?

Luffy always end up strongest compare to his allies that help him save the place or person .
In egghead he was strongest .
In wano he leave the strongest .
In WCI he leave the strongest .
EL he leave the strongest
He does not leave the strongest over all but he leave the strongest compare to people that help him .
Only time this not happen is Amazon lily to Marieford .

 

[HeroesNZ]

No, it’s you who has not been paying attention in the slightest. At absolutely no point in this manga has Luffy left the arc as the strongest character, I don’t think this has happened since like, Arlong Park.

Was Loguetown Luffy stronger than Dragon?

Was Little Garden Luffy stronger than 1.8 billion Dorry and Broggy?

Was Alabasta Luffy stronger than Smoker and Ace?

Was Jaya Luffy stronger than Yami Teach?

Was LRLL Luffy stronger than Aokiji?

Was Enies Lobby Luffy stronger than Garp?

Was Thriller Barc Luffy stronger than Kuma?

Was Shabondy Luffy stronger than Rayleigh?

Was Amazon Lily Luffy stronger than Hancock?

Was Impel Down Luffy stronger than Magellan, Crocodile, Jinbe, or Ivankov?

Was Marineford Luffy stronger than Whitebeard?

Was Punk Hazard Luffy stronger than Kuzan?

Was Dressrosa Luffy stronger than Fujitora?

Was WCI Luffy stronger than Big Mom?

Was Wano Luffy stronger than Kaido?

Was Egghead Luffy stronger than Emeth?

What is this mythical manga you are reading where Luffy always winds up as the strongest character? Oda has already set the precedent with characters like Hancock and Rayleigh being Luffy’s cheerleader despite being much stronger than him, what manga are you reading sir?

Bro... apples and oranges lool

Loki is not an antagonist to be compared to antagonists like Kaido, Big Mom

Loki is not a mentor or protective older family member to be compared to guys like Rayleigh, Garp, Ace, Sabo

Loki is not a love interest to be compared to Hancock

Loki is not a secondary antagonist to be compared to guys like Fujitora, Kuzan

Loki is a new gen ally, the main arc specific fighter and a future cheerleader, to be compared to guys like Yamato, Kyros, Wiper, or even Law, Kid, FI Jinbe etc... are closer comparisons.

In fact, Jinbe is your only argument, as Jinbe is the only reasonable comparison who wasn't clearly weaker than Luffy by the end of the arc. But they were still comparable, and again, if you think end of Elbaf Luffy will be Joyboy level then more power to you buddy lool.

And guess what: even for the guys who were comparable in their arc, a few arcs later, Luffy clearly surpassed their level anyways. Meaning Luffy will clearly surpass Loki too.

There is absolutely zero precedent for any new gen peer leaving the arc significantly stronger than Luffy. So your claim is quite literally baseless.

 

[Rootbeer]

Harald/Xebec > prime WB

Ok.. This is so not it..

 

[SkySanji]

This might be the first time that someone Imu has granted a contract to has died, hence his surprise.

 

[Dragon777]

Wrong.. Power scaling all over the place..

Literally stated multiple times.