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What will be Loki next power ?


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Imu: "Mu bestowed “immortality” and “strength” upon an “Ancient Giant Warrior”...!!
Who is already a rare spectacle in himself... A “monster”!! Huff...
And someone killed it...!! Who did it...!? WHAT IS in “Elbaph”!!? Huff…”



Holy fuking aura :shocked:

@HeroesNZ @Nidai_Kitetsu @RayanOO y'all fucked up
Mad hype. Things will get even better for Loki once he unleashes his DF, but by the end of the arc, he will still end up as a Luffy cheerleader 😂

Let's settle our differences once and for all.
Let's make a Loki is overrated af alliance!
:endthis:
Count me in
 
My issue with Doffy powerscaling was people comparing him to Jack and Cracker,
Well, now that we know that Harald could have been realistically stronger then Roger/WB, we can´t really use relevance scaling against Lord Jack and Cracker, so what´s really the issue with saying they could win? The hype is short, but they did get it....
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Get French With It, Cut the Cheese
He literally has the final villain twerking after Imu was indifferent to Xebec, Roger, Garp, WB etc. it couldn't be more obvious he will be the strongest ally.
And Galleila is on tap for Loki to lead. Just need Kuzan (and maybe York once Teach finishes raiding Marijoa) and the Galleila will be back in play, like Xebec dreamed.

Rocks stated he needed Harald for the Galleila, so I'm assuming they're loyal to Elbaph's royalty.

Loki with a horde of powerful Giants from the Void Century is going to be so much fun to watch, I can't fucking wait.

Even Gyaban being shocked a God's Knight could be killed like that means that Loki + Ragnir + Elbaph DF is a new world of power. You can argue Base Loki's feats are about Gear 4, since Base Loki was able to defeat Ragnir when Harald, Rock's equal, couldn't.

Loki with Ragnir and this Fruit is legit stronger than Roger, and not in a "Roger is weak" sense, but in a, "Loki is already above Harald and Rocks without Ragnir and his Fruit, holy shit he's a monster with them" level.

I actually think Loki's Fruit might exist to nerf him, in a way.

Loki's been tied to Nika, and Gear 5 is a VERY powerful ability, that also drains Luffy's stamina heavily, till he can't move. Loki's Fruit might also be so busted, that using its full power drains Loki heavily.

I'm thinkin Ragnir also has to have some serious weakness, because Loki with his full arsenal is a one man army.

There's also this from Gerd:



Gerd's a legit doctor who knows Loki, if this isn't a throwaway comment, and Loki will actually take months to heal, this injury from Shamrock will probably also serve as a long-term nerf to Loki.

Point being, this guy is so strong Oda's going to have to get creative limiting him in fights. At full power he's just manhandling most of the verse.
 
Kaido Is a fodder to Loki. No shame in that.

Again, base Loki was bascially hyped to be on par with pre HK Harald at least lol.

Idk of people are mad becuase some of their fav got powercliffed or simply becuase they don't like Loki.

Statements are statements and feats are feats. One cannot ignore them simply because are not what we liked them to be.

I didn't think Loki was this strong, but the manga said otherwise.
Okay, man. If you want to stick with this completely nonsensical power system, up to you. I'll stick with the most logical one.

I know how Oda works with all this hype bullshit he creates, and you're all going to fall off the horse pretty badly with this nonsense.
 


Willingly stupid.

Loki himself calls Harald's two personalities out.

Few moments earlier Harald was begging Loki to eat the fruit and kill him.
Few moments later Harald under mind control says the fruit belongs to himself.

Stop being an idiot.
Now Harald being megalomaniacal means a power level statement about a third party, based on Erbaf's history no less, is not realiable by default.

Come on.
 
And Galleila is on tap for Loki to lead. Just need Kuzan (and maybe York once Teach finishes raiding Marijoa) and the Galleila will be back in play, like Xebec dreamed.

Rocks stated he needed Harald for the Galleila, so I'm assuming they're loyal to Elbaph's royalty.

Loki with a horde of powerful Giants from the Void Century is going to be so much fun to watch, I can't fucking wait.

Even Gyaban being shocked a God's Knight could be killed like that means that Loki + Ragnir + Elbaph DF is a new world of power. You can argue Base Loki's feats are about Gear 4, since Base Loki was able to defeat Ragnir when Harald, Rock's equal, couldn't.

Loki with Ragnir and this Fruit is legit stronger than Roger, and not in a "Roger is weak" sense, but in a, "Loki is already above Harald and Rocks without Ragnir and his Fruit, holy shit he's a monster with them" level.

I actually think Loki's Fruit might exist to nerf him, in a way.

Loki's been tied to Nika, and Gear 5 is a VERY powerful ability, that also drains Luffy's stamina heavily, till he can't move. Loki's Fruit might also be so busted, that using its full power drains Loki heavily.

I'm thinkin Ragnir also has to have some serious weakness, because Loki with his full arsenal is a one man army.

There's also this from Gerd:



Gerd's a legit doctor who knows Loki, if this isn't a throwaway comment, and Loki will actually take months to heal, this injury from Shamrock will probably also serve as a long-term nerf to Loki.

Point being, this guy is so strong Oda's going to have to get creative limiting him in fights. At full power he's just manhandling most of the verse.
His eos opponent will probably be the redline itself
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
You can see just how delusional the Loki fandom actually is, to the point where Lee looks like the least delusional member of it, lmfao
I even read Kaido is a fodder, jeez man, tf is going here
Its craziness.

Whats pathetic is low IQ Kaido/Yonko fans like @MonsterKaido & @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier getting gaslighted into this agenda.... going around claiming Ragnir > Kaido 😂😂😂
 
You can give Loki all the mythical DFs and squirrel hammers, but when Shanks is involved Oda can just go "HAKI" and that's the end of the convo.
You can literally give the same reason to every character who's facing Shanks tho?
Mihawk? Doesn't matter if they fought in the past. Shanks just goes "HAKI" and that's the end of the convo.
Primebeard? Shanks goes "Haki" and ends the convo.
Roger? Shanks' Haki ends the convo.
Imu? Bitch please, Shanks' Haki brooo!
Blackbeard? Haki brooo! Shanks unleashes some Haki and BB is done.

Yes, Shanks is Oda's golden boy but Oda still obviously cares about narratives and his own story. There's a reason it isn't revealed yet how Loki was stopped by Shanks.

Also, I mean, there's the possibility Shanks defeated Loki. So? I def ain't gifting Shanks feat to Kaido or other top tiers, let alone Big Mom who couldn't even cut Kidd with her sword, lol.
 
Its craziness.

Whats pathetic is low IQ Kaido/Yonko fans like @MonsterKaido & @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier getting gaslighted into this agenda.... going around claiming Ragnir > Kaido 😂😂😂
Who told you being a fan of a character means you have to suck their cock 24/7? You may do that, and that's cool for you, but I'm not biased here lol. Harald said nobody could make Ragnir respect them and submit to them for centuries, including himself, and that he could only do so with his current strength granted to him by Imu. That means Ragnir > base Harald, and base Harald > Kaido, so Ragnir > Kaido.
Simple scaling. Doesn't get more simple than A > B > C scaling
 
Same guy who casually no sold a combo attack from the entire old gen btw. Oh and he’s huffing after one nameless Loki attack that didn’t even hit him directly.

How are people downplaying Loki again lmao
It’s honestly ridiculous,imu himself is most likely going to have to say loki is extremely powerful himself (which he already did this chapter) to get these people to stop downplaying him.
 
Okay, man. If you want to stick with this completely nonsensical power system, up to you. I'll stick with the most logical one.

I know how Oda works with all this hype bullshit he creates, and you're all going to fall off the horse pretty badly with this nonsense.
If Oda retcons all this, I have no problem (It would be bad for the coherence of the manga, but no personal problem).

But on paper and based on feat:

- Ragnir stated to be a challenge (at the very least) even for base Harald;
- Loki (a 17 YO Loki) beat black and blue HK Harald, when DR Xebec needed both Roger and Garp.

And I could on, with Loki doing what Kaido did but as a toddler, with him having a fruit as hyped as Nika and so on.

All those feats and statements set the stage for someone ON PAPER much stronger than the general top tier. Stronger than even Xebec or Roger, because at least on par with HK Harald.

If tomorrow Oda retcons this, I can do nothing. But until he does, those are his feats.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Now Harald being megalomaniacal means a power level statement about a third party, based on Erbaf's history no less, is not realiable by default.

Come on.


"My sanity is slipping beyond my control...!!!"



"Loki must be the one to eat Elbaf's secret treasure!"

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BuT StAtEmEnTs ArE StAtEmEnTs GuYs ItS ToO MuCh EvEn FoR Me RaGNiR iS StRoNgEr ThAn 99% oF SkYsPLiTTeRs

Im no MonsterCrydo or Testicle Supplier to get fooled by your act. You dont even believe that shit... surely none of you Admiral wankers are that dumb.
 
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