Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

What will be Loki next power ?


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This is fair on its own, before all the reasons I gave this was holding me up as well. Not anymore though cause new evidence has come out since then, and his bounty simply does not match his feats and portrayal. We know now, his power far exceeds the standard of 2.6 bil. Maybe this is why it was called a special bounty.
Why are we downplaying his 2.6B bounty? People have been wanking Mihawk for years for having a 3B+ bounty for being a “lone wolf warrior who only has his bounty for strength” when Loki is literally what Mihawk fans swear he is. Mihawk is affiliated with a Yonkou crew directly waging war against the institution handing out these bounties and has a crew. Loki is alone. This mf has literally NOTHING other than his own individual strength and he gets a special 2.6B bounty. The only special bounty for a pirate in the series. A Yonkou level bounty on nothing but pure individual strength is very impressive. And definitely more impressive than Mihawk’s marine hunter inflated bounty.
 
Big Mom made no difference between him and Kaido but made sure to separate Whitebeard from the two.
But there are easily ways you could argue this doesn't mean much for determining power levels.
Meme wasn't speaking in just the contexts of a 1v1 confrontation, but in terms of military strength from having Elbaf join them. Given Shanks' fleet/affiliates are explicitly considered to be weak, that's a point for why he's not getting emphasized among the Yonko in this comparison.

Keep in mind that Big Mom might not even have ever met Shanks in person. She explicitly hasn't seen Kaido in decades, for example.
 
Of course she would say that. She likely believes she is the strongest person in the world. She believed she could defeat Kaido in 1v1 during Wano
But she still made the choice to separate Whitebeard from them lol
But there are easily ways you could argue this doesn't mean much for determining power levels.
Meme wasn't speaking in just the contexts of a 1v1 confrontation, but in terms of military strength from having Elbaf join them. Given Shanks' fleet/affiliates are explicitly considered to be weak, that's a point for why he's not getting emphasized among the Yonko in this comparison.

Keep in mind that Big Mom might not even have ever met Shanks in person. She explicitly hasn't seen Kaido in decades, for example.
Isn't Shanks' crew said to be well rounded and fairly strong in general?
 

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The only one who can beat me is me
Why are we downplaying his 2.6B bounty? People have been wanking Mihawk for years for having a 3B+ bounty for being a “lone wolf warrior who only has his bounty for strength” when Loki is literally what Mihawk fans swear he is. Mihawk is affiliated with a Yonkou crew directly waging war against the institution handing out these bounties and has a crew. Loki is alone. This mf has literally NOTHING other than his own individual strength and he gets a special 2.6B bounty. The only special bounty for a pirate in the series. A Yonkou level bounty on nothing but pure individual strength is very impressive. And definitely more impressive than Mihawk’s marine hunter inflated bounty.
I disagree with Mihawk's bounty, it's extremely difficult to get a bounty higher than your own captain who is a Yonkou at that.

True about Loki's bounty if it's only based off pure individual strength it is impressive in a vacuum. It's more impressive than Luffy, Blackbeard, Buggy's bounties. However....it is still too low given his feats.
 
Honestly I think Shanks is equal to Prime Ray.
I love Ray but Shanks will be above him. Same as Law (Doffys crew, surpassed Vergo).

Big Mom made no difference between him and Kaido but made sure to separate Whitebeard from the two.
Well, Big Mom remembers (close to) prime WB. Look at how WB fared against Xebec compared to herself and Kaido. Shanks has been biding his time all along because he knew Luffy was the golden child (although my money is still on WB).
 
@ZenZu Doesn’t the fact that Oda had Shanks go out of his way to make sure Kid was at 100% HP before whooping his ass make it kinda unlikely that Shanks would ever use dirty tricks to beat someone?
 
Loki doesn't need fire, the lightning itself creates the fire.

So it seems like the hammer is elemental...

Oda still hiding Loki's fruit, I can see where this is going... Sanji and Zoro struggling with the DR army, Last page is Luffy riding Loki in his dragon form (just like Momo) and we see Loki's full design: Zoan type Dragon Dragon Fruit; Mythical type Model: Elbaph "The earth God" or some sh*t
 
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