Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

[thisnewtechnique]

“Kaido scales to Shanks”

Yeah and that’s why his equal couldn’t put down a wounded Kidd with her full arsenal + ultimate attack while Shanks one tapped him from full HP right?

her full arsenal?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He is right. She is a boomer, she thinks everyone from young generation will never beat someone from her generation. And she is a Karen, she is not Kaido who enjoy powerscalling. And you know what? Kaido put Shanks in the same tier of Wb.

I trust more in Kaido takes than a Karen take

Kaido is just as arrogant and egotistical as her but okay

 

[TheD.]

How many breaks does Japan get a year?

 

[Hako Sama]

Jesus Christ, holiday again in Jaoan

 

[ZenZu]

@ZenZu Doesn’t the fact that Oda had Shanks go out of his way to make sure Kid was at 100% HP before whooping his ass make it kinda unlikely that Shanks would ever use dirty tricks to beat someone?

This is actually a core aspect of Shanks' character.

Spoiler

And your view is too narrow. A capture can entail anything. Be warned you are about to witness peak.

Spoiler: Peak

Oda can make Shanks capture Loki without making him look underhanded, or stronger than Loki, if he wants. You're underestimating him if you think he's not capable of that.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

How many breaks does Japan get a year?

Deserved since the rest of the year they're being worked as slaves with a proper wage

 

[CbShadow]

Why are we downplaying his 2.6B bounty? People have been wanking Mihawk for years for having a 3B+ bounty for being a “lone wolf warrior who only has his bounty for strength” when Loki is literally what Mihawk fans swear he is. Mihawk is affiliated with a Yonkou crew directly waging war against the institution handing out these bounties and has a crew. Loki is alone. This mf has literally NOTHING other than his own individual strength and he gets a special 2.6B bounty. The only special bounty for a pirate in the series. A Yonkou level bounty on nothing but pure individual strength is very impressive. And definitely more impressive than Mihawk’s marine hunter inflated bounty.

The manga told us the reason for Mihawk's bounty and he had nothing to do with his Marine Hunter days or being part of a Yonko crew.

Here it is.

You can cope all you want but it won't make this scene disappear or change manga facts

 

[sanjikun]

@ZenZu Doesn’t the fact that Oda had Shanks go out of his way to make sure Kid was at 100% HP before whooping his ass make it kinda unlikely that Shanks would ever use dirty tricks to beat someone?

I still don't get what this "dirty trick" is that would make someone beat a "God Tier" character. These guys are claiming he's stronger than DR Xebec, and his CoC saved him from any nonsense like that.

And a trick from who? Shanks, who's the most honest out of all the pirates.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

This is actually a core aspect of Shanks' character.

Spoiler

And your view is too narrow. A capture can entail anything. Be warned you are about to witness peak.

Spoiler: Peak

Oda can make Shanks capture Loki without making him look underhanded, or stronger than Loki, if he wants. You're underestimating him if you think he's not capable of that.

Grimmjow was a better antagonist than overrated shitty Aizen who was basically a Villain Sue

 

[sanjikun]

Why are we downplaying his 2.6B bounty? People have been wanking Mihawk for years for having a 3B+ bounty for being a “lone wolf warrior who only has his bounty for strength” when Loki is literally what Mihawk fans swear he is. Mihawk is affiliated with a Yonkou crew directly waging war against the institution handing out these bounties and has a crew. Loki is alone. This mf has literally NOTHING other than his own individual strength and he gets a special 2.6B bounty. The only special bounty for a pirate in the series. A Yonkou level bounty on nothing but pure individual strength is very impressive. And definitely more impressive than Mihawk’s marine hunter inflated bounty.

After Imu failed with Loki, the next ones in line were Dorry and Broggy. He's going to make them the kings of Elbaf.

They're at 1.8 bill/each, which Robin called "reasonable", and together they're higher than Loki.

 

[ZenZu]

Grimmjow was a better antagonist than overrated shitty Aizen who was basically a Villain Sue

You decided to speak facts today free of charge huh?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

After Imu failed with Loki, the next ones in line were Dorry and Broggy. He's going to make them the kings of Elbaf.

They're at 1.8 bill/each, which Robin called "reasonable", and together they're higher than Loki.

Law and Luffy got 1B combined for defeating Doffy btw
Also, is Kidd equal to Luffy? Stop ducking that question for once

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

The manga told us the reason for Mihawk's bounty and he had nothing to do with his Marine Hunter days or being part of a Yonko crew.

Here it is.

You can cope all you want but it won't make this scene disappear or change manga facts

Where did I say that his bounty isn't because of his strength? Marine hunting is a reflection of his strength itself. The fact he's DIRECTLY opposing the marines obviously makes him a greater threat than someone who isn't. If someone as strong as Mihawk was a pirate not attacking marines or affiliated with a Yonkou crew then they'd objectively have a lower bounty

Cope all you want but Mihawk isn't this lone wolf he was portrayed at the start of the series. Nor is he some person who prioritizes peace above all. He's simply a hypocrite that says empty bullshit only to later betray it. Peace seeking person directly creating a terrorist organization while pretending to be a lone wolf teaming up with another warlord. He's an opportunistic hypocrite who happens to be strong. That's it.
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After Imu failed with Loki, the next ones in line were Dorry and Broggy. He's going to make them the kings of Elbaf.

They're at 1.8 bill/each, which Robin called "reasonable", and together they're higher than Loki.

Bounty scaling two people who are part of a legendary crew and a person who has nothing but his own individual strength, wow. I guess Kidd = Law = Luffy

 

[sanjikun]

Law and Luffy got 1B combined for defeating Doffy btw

We've been over this DR shit. In that era Sabo was 600 mill, Don Chinjao 550 mill, and Jinbe 430 mill.

Shanks was actually < 1 bill in Elbaf. It took him 2 years after Elbaf to reach 1 bill.

Also, is Kidd equal to Luffy? Stop ducking that question for once

It's not about 100% equality in power, but achievements. That's why Luffy/Kid got have the same bounty. Loki was a pirate for a decade, and he didn't achieve anything deemed worthy of being on par with Kaido, Big Mom or Shanks.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Is Itachi the greatest mary sue of all time?

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Is Itachi the greatest mary sue of all time?

Itachi isn't a gary stu lol

He's just been given gary stu levels of wank by the author but he still fails and has flaws and is morally grey

 

[TheD.]

Deserved since the rest of the year they're being worked as slaves with a proper wage

True

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Itachi isn't a gary stu lol

He is

And Kishimoto needed to make the characters say 2 times he saved the world in the final war

 

[ZenZu]

Is Itachi the greatest mary sue of all time?

Yes. But he makes it work, his gary stuness feels justified.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

We've been over this DR shit. In that era Sabo was 600 mill, Don Chinjao 550 mill, and Jinbe 430 mill.

Shanks was actually < 1 bill in Elbaf. It took him 2 years after Elbaf to reach 1 bill.

It's not about 100% equality in power, but achievements. That's why Luffy/Kid got have the same bounty. Loki was a pirate for a decade, and he didn't achieve anything deemed worthy of being on par with Kaido, Big Mom or Shanks.

Fruitless Sabo and old Chinjao?
You're using bounties to scale when bounties are almost never accurate for scaling. Shanks has a lower bounty than Kaido and Big Mom but a higher one than Mihawk (even though canonically Shanks is equal or relative to the other Yonko and Mihawk is above him), King and Queen have higher bounties than Zoro and Sanji, etc.