Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

What will be Loki next power ?


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I know in nik world Oden alone could pack Imu, the question is whether Shanks knows about Nika stuff since he didn't go to Laugh Tale.
I think he does (maybe he learned about it in marijoa) and that's why he stole the fruit. If you reread chapter 1054, it is right after he saw Luffy updated bounty that he suddenly decided it was time to go after the One Piece, not the new of Kaido/BM downfall.
Yes, that's why Shanks specifically commented on the new picture too. Someone also theorized that the reason Shanks stopped Loki in the first place was, to have him sit out the arrival of Joyboy, as it would significantly tip the scales in their (Loki's/Joyboy's) favor and I think that kinda makes sense.
 
No. Harald only stopped defending after loki cut the connection with imu. It took Roger and garp using all their haki to do same against xebec.

Loki hit harald so hard , imu couldn't control him.
DR rocks and what was happen to Harald was differnt .
Harald was still talking but his mind was becoming more a slave for Imu .
DR rocks could not even talk or ask for help or even tell anyone what was going on .
While harald was chatting away during this whole thing .
 


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I think shanks knows something that is holding back, even from his crew

There was this flashback (was it whos whos?) where he was attacking the WG ship to get the nika frew, and the crew was wondering why they randomly attacking a GV ship.

So shanks has some info that he didnt even share with his closest friends is my intepretation
The time travel theory is correct. Shanks knows that the One Piece will arrive on Laughtale once Nika is reawakened. There is a “right time”; this notion has been sprinkled out ever since Fishman Island.
 
And who cut harald connection to Imu here?


From what we know, Using advacned conqueror slows down their recovery but not cut their connection to Imu.

Not only that in His Zoan form there was no advanced conqueror used. Just pure rage and furry used to dominate someone smaller than him.
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Harald only starts to lose himself once he chose to oppose imu. He slowly loses control over himself. Reading can't be this hard bro.
 
He was not. That was a title he only was given after Roger died.

And she didn’t. The exact quote is
“I’d have beaten Kaido Red Haired and EVEN WHITEBEARD.” She always made sure to put Whitebeard above the others
Yea but his vivre card said he had it before great pirate era so what's your sourve to say othewise.


You reading too much into it now.
 
DR rocks and what was happen to Harald was differnt .
Harald was still talking but his mind was becoming more a slave for Imu .
DR rocks could not even talk or ask for help or even tell anyone what was going on .
While harald was chatting away during this whole thing .
Yeah harald had personality changed. He started thinking he was a god. HK amp is much bigger amp hence imu couldn't believe someone could kill harald. He didn't gave a damn when xebec's curse was removed.
 
Yea but his vivre card said he had it before great pirate era so what's your sourve to say othewise.


You reading too much into it now.
The manga showing Whitebeard right before Roger’s final journey still not having the title instead just being known as a great pirate. Vivre cards have been wrong multiple times as such always go with the manga when they contradict.

I’m really not? Big Mom wouldn’t have made Whitebeard a more impressive opponent if it wasn’t because she held him to a high standard.

Whitebeard was also called the Strongest Yonko from those who fought all of them (Garp) and was called the King of the Seas despite them all being active.
 
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Harald only starts to lose himself once he chose to oppose imu. He slowly loses control over himself. Reading can't be this hard bro.
Yet he Gained consciousness in the final time he wanted to talk to Loki.
This loki cut the connection is something you came up with it.

When Gaban explicitly said, Advanced conqueror is only weakness, strikr them hard enough and they will eventually knock out. Nothing about cutting the connection from imu.
 
Loki being that strong isn't that much of an issue as long we realize he's by far the freakiest genetic freak in One Piece.
The guy killed an underworld gigantic bear by beheading it, survived kilometers tall fall and climbed the adam tree the day he was born
Even for natural born monsters like Big Mom, Oda waited for her to be be 5-6 before having her pull prodigy feats.
Now you consider that he's the last remaining living ancient giant, and that even among ancient giants his eyes are unique in the OP world (even the eyes Imu have are shared by other characters like Mihawk or Zunisha) then him being this strong isn't really an issue.
What would really fuck up the powerscaling is Shanks beating Loki 1 vs 1 , except if Oda later reveal Shanks was hiding his real strenght until Luffy managed to awaken his fruit (rip Mihawk in that case) cause Nika is needed to take Imu down @Fujishiro
Oda has the excuse of us never seeing shanks go all out .
When we see Shanks fight he OHKO Kid who help beat a yonko and was taking many hit from them .
That alone should tell people that power scale system will bend for shanks .
 
Yeah but that was the ship with whos who and the nika fruit no? And the crew had no idea why they did it, shanks wanted to it.
So whatever he knows he never divulged it to the rest of them
I might be missing smth but these are the panels I think you’re talking about

It isn’t implied that the RHP were surprised at what Shanks was doing
 
Yet he Gained consciousness in the final time he wanted to talk to Loki.
This loki cut the connection is something you came up with it.

When Gaban explicitly said, Advanced conqueror is only weakness, strikr them hard enough and they will eventually knock out. Nothing about cutting the connection from imu.
Correct after loki hit him badly.

Only then loki says harald has regained his self in the manga.

Gaban couldn't believe HKs can be killed as Roger pirates never managed to kill one ever.
 

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Yeah harald had personality changed. He started thinking he was a god. HK amp is much bigger amp hence imu couldn't believe someone could kill harald. He didn't gave a damn when xebec's curse was removed.
I also don’t recall Imu reacting this severely when Rocks was killed lol. It really seems like the HKs are far more valuable than the DRs.

@sanjikun
 
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