Speculations Did Shanks beat Loki in a clean 1 vs 1?

[sanjikun]

Didn‘t Sanjikun hate the Shanks dickriding and called him a lowly gary stu? Sanjikun had Shanks as the weakest yonko, shameless mofo thinks that the weakest yonko is above an amped Harald lmfaoo

This is the first time we’re seeing signs that Oda might actually be above that, and it’s the most believable time to do it too. And somehow Sanjikun is now rooting for Shanks glaze 😂😂

How is Shanks being a Gary Stu making him weak? It's literally the exact opposite. Oda just glazes him endlessly.

Sanjikun had Shanks as the weakest yonko, shameless mofo thinks that the weakest yonko is above an amped Harald lmfaoo

This is the first time we’re seeing signs that Oda might actually be above that, and it’s the most believable time to do it too. And somehow Sanjikun is now rooting for Shanks glaze 😂😂

Some of you straight up can't read. Loki is not stronger than DR Harald in terms of overall combat.

1) Gaban mentions him and Shanks have significantly reduced his healing abilities.

2) Since Harald's regen is taking longer and longer, this makes him give a big enough window to regain his senses and let Loki attack him.

Hajrudin literally says he "chose death"

That a 3 v. 1 fight in which Harald let Loki go all out on him at the end without fighting back.

 

[Shiroyru]

Man Shanks really has dudes shook like this it's wild 😭, he really is HIM

I don't think you believe half the shit you're saying rn, you're just scared of Oda's Shanks wank. Relax a little, there should be a limit to it.

The limit will be that Shanks can’t be stronger than Awakened Loki. Current Loki is fair game though

 

[Shiroyru]

Oda will never have Shanks look way stronger than a fellow yonko, this much is actually deeply rooted in OP lore.
I as keep saying, Loki is an endgame character who exists outside of this established hierarchy, he is the exception. It’s better to assume that Shanks didn’t beat him in a 1v1, then everything else will be logical.

He already WiFi diffed Crydo and made Meme look like a wimp

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Just to say: aren't you yourself betting against Shanks in the biggest, most important manner since you suggest Shanks has never been never stronger than his long lasting rival Mihawk, who righfully got the WSS thorne while Shanks was merely relegated at 2nd place?

Mihawk and Shanks are jointly in first place

 

[Dragon777]

Mihawk and Shanks are jointly in first place

So Mihawk isn't the real WSS?

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

So Mihawk isn't the real WSS?

He is, as in no swordsman is stronger than him

 

[Fujishiro]

People like @Nidai_Kitetsu are just very lucky Oda chose to hide what happened between Loki and Shanks. They wouldn't have anything to argue for another minute.

@sanjikun is a different case though, he genuinely needs meds since he thinks Loki vs Doflamingo is a good fight.

Why do you think Oda did it, Im in the '' He didnt want to dehype Loki in his own arc'' camp.

 

[Dragon777]

He is, as in no swordsman is stronger than him

So you are betting against Shanks.

(And you are right as far as I am concerned. It should be that if Oda doesn't go crazy. Same for Loki)

 

[park_min young]

How is Shanks being a Gary Stu making him weak? It's literally the exact opposite. Oda just glazes him endlessly.



Some of you straight up can't read. Loki is not stronger than DR Harald in terms of overall combat.

1) Gaban mentions him and Shanks have significantly reduced his healing abilities.

2) Since Harald's regen is taking longer and longer, this makes him give a big enough window to regain his senses and let Loki attack him.

Hajrudin literally says he "chose death"

That a 3 v. 1 fight in which Harald let Loki go all out on him at the end without fighting back.

Your brain cells just evaporate when it comes to Loki, because everything you said is wrong. Gaban and Shanks were only capable of stalling. They could not even outlast the fodder guards. By the time Loki arrived, Harald was completely clean. Even Loki’s onslaught, the one that severed Imu’s connection, did not significantly slow Harald’s regeneration. Harald was almost fully healed by the time their conversation ended.

What has been repeatedly made clear is that Loki saved them. Everyone present was shocked by Loki’s newfound power. Gaban and Jarul did not say, “Good thing Harald gave Loki a free shot.” Instead, they were outright glazing Loki’s legendary df, which allowed him to completely massacre Harald in a 1v1 btw.

 

[SakazOuki]

You are betting against Shanks. There is no light at the end of this tunnel bro. You know that Oda used to cosplay as Shanks?

And yet somehow you think this dude is stronger than Shanks

 

[ShishioIsBack]

You really believe Mihawk who Oda has currently hiding under Buggy, is a god tier? Man...this shit is getting out of hand.

Considering Cross Guild is canconically a legit Yonko level crew, and everyone besides Mihawk can be taken out by King, if Mihawk were to fight Kaido he has to be able to beat Kaido and his crew
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I'm sorry I interrupted your Loki is stronger than Roger, Garp and Whitebeard combined slop.

How is Loki being able to solo those 3 a hot take??
He takes them out in a single attack

 

[Dragon777]

Considering Cross Guild is canconically a legit Yonko level crew, and everyone besides Mihawk can be taken out by King, if Mihawk were to fight Kaido he has to be able to beat Kaido and his crew

The CG is believed to be a Yonkou crew because people believe Buggy is basically a second Shanks btw.

 

[soupongo]

Having a view about Loki´s PL related to Yonko is one thing, but convincing yourself that Loki is around Doflamingo level because he was injured while chained up in seastone, or that he´ll end up below the chicken wings this arc is beyond mental illness.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

The CG is believed to be a Yonkou crew because people believed Buggy is basically a second Shanks btw.

Not really. Remember when Law said and Luffy agreed that Mihawk and Crocodile being there means this is indeed legit Yonko crew despite Buggy being the fake leader.

The reason why Shanks Blackbeard are not invading them is because of fear of Mihawk

Won't surprise me if he was stronger than Joy Boy

 

[Dragon777]

Not really. Remember when Law said and Luffy agreed that Mihawk and Crocodile being there means this is indeed legit Yonko crew despite Buggy being the fake leader.

The reason why Shanks Blackbeard are not invading them is because of fear of Mihawk

Won't surprise me if he was stronger than Joy Boy

Some don't buy It (Law didn't know until Luffy told him), but the world at large did.

Even Brannew called Buggy "living legend":

It's Buggy's plot and way of being since ID.
He's the King/Mr. satan of OP.

 

[Sentry22]

My issue is that there's no genuine reason for Shanks's growth to have outpaced Loki by a significant margin (since Shanks would go from clearly below Loki to above him).
14 years ago, Loki was actually the newbie who just ate his fruit, got a new weapon and was only about to start sailing. In comparison Shanks been sailing the seas since he was born, got mentored by the PK, was having "legendary duels" with Mihawk and was a prodigy who been using aCOC moves for a decade.
Not claiming Shanks was in his prime in his twenties, but I see no good reason why he would have grew more than the guy who would qualify as an actual rookie, even more when I factor that he lost his arm. He might have gotten used to it, but this should at least have slowed/halted his growth for a while otheriwise it renders his sacrifice for Luffy pointless.

Now if Oda decided to give Shanks some massive haki boost that far surpasses any growth Loki would have had just because... lol

But Shanks wasn't Yonko when he had two arms.

 

[sanjikun]

Gaban and Shanks were only capable of stalling

Read back this to me.

Maybe 2-3 paragraphs are too much for your brain to parse. But surely 1 sentence is not.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Some don't buy It (Law didn't know until Luffy told him), but the world at large did.

Even Brannew called Buggy "living legend":

It's Buggy's plot and way of being since ID.
He's the King/Mr. satan of OP.

Buggy Shanks and quite frankly every top tier knows Buggy is trash
Only reason why they are not invading is fear of Mihawk

The random people don't matter they are weak anyways.

 

[uyuu]

Loki:

- Did Kaidou's feat during infancy
- Defeated Harald that was being blessed by Omu's whatever cursed power

These two feats are out of this world. Sure Oda can wiggle Shanks' way out of this since he said Shanks is his self-insert, but it seems unlikely that Oda will give Shanks reality-warping or Jojo powers to go around Loki's raw combat power lol

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Loki:

- Did Kaidou's feat during infancy
- Defeated Harald that was being blessed by Omu's whatever cursed power

These two feats are out of this world. Sure Oda can wiggle Shanks' way out of this since he said Shanks is his self-insert, but it seems unlikely that Oda will give Shanks reality-warping or Jojo powers to go around Loki's raw combat power lol

Maybe Mihawk but Shanks no chance