[FNZ] Super Role Madness Naruto Shippuden: An Alternate Universe Mafia Game Thread [Game Ended - Mafia Win]

The deal with power's role:

first, to establish that there are no contradictions/bastard elements regarding mafia having a living jinchuriki:
  • it was never stated by me that jinchurikis have to be town aligned. the game mechanics say that certain roles have bijuu inside of them. a strong supporting argument to this is that galaxy was a flipped indie jinchuriki.
  • in the revealed factional abilities and mafia wincon it is only stated that mafia needs to ultimately seal all 9 bijuu, not that they all need to be town.
  • neeko's passive only reveals that the akatsuki have captured and sealed 2 bijuu before the game started. it does not root out that one of the akatsuki is a living jinchuriki that isn't captured or sealed yet.

fun fact: mafia actually were never told what number tailed beast was the second bijuu that they had captured before the game starts (the 6-tailed bijuu). they'd have to take a wild shot at guessing it or potentially use rolecop TMI to determine which bijuu is claimable if they want to fake claim it later. mafia was a team of 9 so each of them could essentially claim a bijuu before getting lynched to at least gain some reactions or even stall their lynch if they happen to claim being the 6-tailed bijuu and sell it well.

next, here are some subtle clues that helps town arrive at finding that one of the mafia can be a bijuu:
  • shuijin's hidden passive, while redacted, subtly opens possibilities to speculate that the akatsuki leader is a jinchuriki or associated with bijuu in some form given the unredacted wording
  • the akatsuki leader dies if sealed normally or via shuijin's hidden ability, but survives if partial sealed. what happens if he partially sealed is that the name of his bijuu is revealed: "poison beetle" which subtly hints at him being the unknown poisoner.
  • the fact that poisons have stopped to happen after power was partial sealed subtly points toward him possibly being the poisoner who lost his poison powers after being sealed.
  • mechanic wise town knew the last scum had a poison healing ability to heal RA, and power claimed such a healing ability. it was his best claimable ability so he's forced into it. of all the flipped mafia roles not a single one had a poison heal. only power does. boa can heal wound/burns, not poisons. basically the mafia poison healer was not flipped and town knew mafia must have had atleast one, which points more fingers to power.
  • you were told at the end of night 1's Kage summit that the Akatsuki leader feels very confident in declaring war against all nations almost like he had a "secret weapon". this was actually a very subtle hint. this secret weapon was the strong jinchuriki claim. this one is too subtle tho and just having fun with the flavor, i dont expect many to pay much attention to it. i only recall charlie did.
  • during the night where power got partial sealed, power chose to protect shanks, not himself like he said he wud do in thread. this is what caused the contradiction in thread and showed that one of the kages is lying. since AM and hayumi flipped town and claimed not responsible for it, the only kage left that could have done it was power.
  • town has to protect the bijuu from being sealed. this includes protecting power stops his bijuu from being sealed and slows the mafia wincon. you aren't being deceived. protecting a jinchuriki, regardless of their alignment, slows mafia's wincon. It's why power was adamant about not being protected in the night he partial sealed himself. this game was mostly about killing mafia before they achieve their wincon. it doesn't matter how many townies die. protecting the bijuu was a mean to delay mafia's wincon, not necessarily save townies.
  • during night 1 it appears that daniel got promoted twice to become jonin and lots players where speculating that cake might have somehow found a way to talk to his team in order to boost daniel. this was true, and the way to do that by design was the land of lightning higher-ups chat where cake gets to talk to paragorn/power, who told him to boost daniel in the chat.

i get that nothing above is a "concrete evidence" against him, and thats intentional because its made to be a strong claim, but the above is enough to get the gears turning and get town to think beyond the faulty "jinchuriki = town locked" idea

thats part of "solving the mystery" so to speak. i don't agree that it was bastard because it was never explicitly stated by the host that all jinchuriki are town, and galaxy was a living proof of that not being the case. i think there were sufficient enough clues to solve this, and many players got close to doing so.

Living Players [5/27]:
  1. @Fujishiro
  2. @Flower
  3. @Paragorn @PowerLevel9000
  4. @Higuma @Jan
  5. @Hayumi --- Revived Day 9
Subs [3/X]:
  1. @Ali v2
  2. @Indigo
  3. @Yo Tan Wa
Dead Players [19/27]:
  1. @bittersweet - Yotsuki Multi-Taste - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 1 (LINK)
  2. @RippedCal - The Shredded Ape - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 1 (LINK)
  3. @York - Yamanaka Inork - Akatsuki - Died Night 1 (LINK)
  4. @SakazOuki - Momochi Sakabuza - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 2 (LINK)
  5. @The Orca - Hoshigaki Korca - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Day 3 (LINK)
  6. @JustJuice - Killer C - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 3 (LINK)
  7. @Daniel - Damn Daniel Ninja Version - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 4 (LINK)
  8. @Michelle - Hatake Michashi - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 4 (LINK)
  9. @Alexis2282AE - Uchiha Byakuya - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 4 (LINK)
  10. @Ultra @Neeko - Urzo the Bearmander - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 4 (LINK)
  11. @BoaHancocksHusband - Mitarashi McBoa-Arm - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 5 (LINK)
  12. @Yoho - Hyuuga Yohabi - Shinobi Alliance - Lynch Day 6 (LINK)
  13. @GalaxyLevelShanks - The Legendary Galaxy Level Baa! - Team Neko - Sealed Day 7 (LINK)
  14. @Random Asshole - Uchiha SauceQue - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 7 (LINK)
  15. @Charlie - Chikamatsu Chuck E. Cheese - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 7 (LINK)
  16. @Polar Bear - Kazahana Polar Express - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9 --- Died again Night 9 (LINK)
  17. @Cadis Etrama Di Urek - Nono Di Yakushi - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 8 (LINK)
  18. @Hayumi - Terumei Hayumei - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9
  19. @Shuijing - Kousei Endou - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 9 (LINK)
  20. @Alwaysmind - Akimichi Cho-Mind - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 9 (LINK)
  21. @Lord Melkor - Ironland Shikasand Guy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 10 (LINK)
  22. @Naomi - Hoshigaki Naomiato - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 10 (LINK)
  23. @Ratchet - Shakuton no Pakuratchy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 11
Oh yes, a Jinchuriki that Town has to protect to prevent the scum objective being scum is absolutely okay and not bastard bro.
 
:okay:

Flower mad they wanted the tails to claim and I used it to my advantage and worked my ass off to disprove a scum could still have a tail when it was more hindrance to scum to have to seal it then to town. Like cmon bro you can give props to well done wolf play like I have to you before
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
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Ekko's explanation is basically the same as making a lynchpin in a lychpin game scum and then saying "well I didn't tell you that all the lynchpins were town I just told you you needed one alive at the end". It's not a fair mystery and goes into "subverting expectations" which ultimately is what makes a game bastard or not. So I'm going to write this one off as bastard, next time Ekko wants to host here he's going to need a coach to reign in this sort of thing. Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can more objectively see the potential issues.
 
typical response. i am pointing out he should not been cleared because of the tailed beast.


this is more bastard.

I have to say one of the Jinchuuruki being evil crossed my mind. Maybe i could come to it if we had entire day to discuss instead of lynching me in less an hour.

I had doubts about Ratchet being scum then because he was evaluating instead of quick lynching me.
 
Ekko's explanation is basically the same as making a lynchpin in a lychpin game scum and then saying "well I didn't tell you that all the lynchpins were town I just told you you needed one alive at the end". It's not a fair mystery and goes into "subverting expectations" which ultimately is what makes a game bastard or not. So I'm going to write this one off as bastard, next time Ekko wants to host here he's going to need a coach to reign in this sort of thing. Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can more objectively see the potential issues.
I mean, he also claimed E33 wasn’t bastard when there were several mechanics that could just randomly have our team mates betray the team without us having ways to counter that, so best is to just not play his games anymore atp.
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
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:okay:

Flower mad they wanted the tails to claim and I used it to my advantage and worked my ass off to disprove a scum could still have a tail when it was more hindrance to scum to have to seal it then to town. Like cmon bro you can give props to well done wolf play like I have to you before
I guess me saying that the beasts claiming was a bad idea was indeed a bad idea just not in the way I thought it would be.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
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I have to say one of the Jinchuuruki being evil crossed my mind. Maybe i could come to it if we had entire day to discuss instead of lynching me in less an hour.

I had doubts about Ratchet being scum then because he was evaluating instead of quick lynching me.
The quick lynching was bad I agree. I think it would have been hard to come to the tails being scum though because there was a public wound notification. And given that Yoho was given the same treatment with nothing to seperate the two it logically follows that the 7 tails is town too. I don't thibk most people in the game would have gone that route over lynching through you, me and Naomi first.
 

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
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Town lost their morale and felt it was hopeless so rather than using the time to have a proper discussion it was back to back quick lynches and @PowerLevel9000 took advantage

This is one of those games Town beat themselves and scum just navigated through the chaos
 


Catchiha Nya Ren
Alignment: Hebi(X)->Taka(X)->Neko(βœ”)
Rank: Ninja Pet -> Genin -> Chunin
Nation: Land of Water
Village hidden in the Mist, Kirigakure

(Passive) [Innate - Catchiha Survivor] - You are the sole surviving member of the Catchiha Clan after they have been massacred by the culminations of the misjustices of this world. Stranded and with nowhere to go amidst the burning clan house, a Kusagakure travelling Ramen merchant has rescued you and gave you food and shelter. In an attempt to ease your trauma, you travelled together across the world as part of the merchant's food caravan, but unfortunately only witnessed first hand how corrupted the Shinobi World truly is.
--- [Team Hebi Taka Neko] - Some time through your duet travels with your new owner, you were introduced to his close friend: The underground blackmarket catnip dealer who shares a similar views of the world as the both of you. The three of you formed team Hebi, which was renamed to Taka, and then to Neko, and together you vowed, against all odds, to make the Shinobi World a better place - a place where no other clan has to be massacred - and will achieve this dream if at least 1 of you manages to survive until the end of the game while being Kage Rank.
(Passive) [Innate - Sunagakure Incident News to Kirigakure] - While you stayed in Kirigakure to run errands, your owner's Ramen caravan - during their recent mission to Sunagakure - was ambushed by the Akatsuki amidst their plot to capture the Fourth Kazekage: Kekkuya Kimimaro. News spread to the world that the entire caravan is now missing, and you have not heard back from your owner in weeks. Losing all hope in his survival, you sought to visit your owner's most trusted friend and your second favorite person: The underground blackmarket catnip dealer, hoping you can receive some guidance or solace; However, you do not remember their exact address besides the strong smell of catnip near it...
--- (Day) [Scent Sensing] - Once per day you can target a player. If they are the catnip dealer you will join a permanent neighbor chat with them.
--- (Passive) [Ninjutsu - Chakra Infused Scent Sensing] - As you get closer and become more skilled in Ninjutsu, the scent of catnip gets easier to pick up. You can now search up to 2 players per day. [Requires Genin Rank or higher]
--- (Passive) [Ninjutsu - Ninja Art: Global Network Scent Sensing] -
You can now search up to 3 players per day. [Requires Chunin Rank or higher]

(Night) [Ninjutsu - Survival Jutsu] - You've picked up a few survival jutsu's while watching your missing owner train, however they will serve you no good in their current state unless you evolve them with ninja Rank:
--- [Water Style: Water Bubble Technique] - This was used to create water bubbles for you to play with in the past, but now you must use it to survive. Target 1 player and release a swarm of water bubbles onto them. The target's negative actions against any team Neko member will be redirected at random that night. [3-shots; Requires Jonin Rank or higher]
--- [CATon: Ramen Ignition - Fire Stove Mode] -
This was used to warm your food in the past, but now you must use it to survive. Create a box of fire surrounding 1 team Neko member (can self target). The box will amplify the effects of all positive actions targeting that player, additionally, the first harmful action targeting them in this night will be canceled, and its user will have half of their role be burned for the duration the following cycle. [1-shot; Requires Jonin Rank or higher]

(Passive) [Kekkei Genkai - Catchiha's Mangekyo Sharingan] - Should you witness a fellow team Neko member die right in front of your eyes, that is, after you join a chat with them, you will directly unlock your Mangekyo Sharingan, granting you the following abilities. These abilities are powerful, very powerful that they were created by Catchiha cats to make their owners give them infinite treats.
--- (Night) [KotoamatsuCATmi] - Target 1 player to subtly mind control. All positive actions that that player uses will be automatically redirected to you for the rest of the game unless you decide otherwise. Does not notify the target. [1-shot; Requires Kage Rank]
--- (Night) [Izanami] -
Target 1 player to trap in a perpetual loop. The target is forced to compulsively visit the same players they visited in the previous cycle for the rest of the game, if able, unless you decide otherwise. Notifies the target of the order. [1-shot; Requires Kage Rank]
--- (Passive) [Izanagi] -
A legendary technique and the sole reason why cats are thought to have 9 lives. The first time you would be killed, regardless of the kill strength, you will phase right through death and not die. Instead your Mangekyo Sharingan will be permanently destroyed and your Izanami and KotoamatsuCATmi effects will be terminated. Works once. [Requires Kage Rank]


Win con (Indie) - At least one member of team Neko survives until the end of the game and is Kage Rank when that happens. Your team cannot win if the Akatsuki achieves their objective.

 
Hes the Furry king.
I would really be down bad knowing there is someone calling me the Furry King like if it was some kind of imperial title or a wacky JoJo's stand name. Even more if this happens in a thread I can't even answer in.
Hes into Vaporeon true story.
@Mr. Reloaded seeing his reputation being ruined in a thread he can't answer to :
You didn't mention the right person @Mr. Reloaded
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
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Town lost their morale and felt it was hopeless so rather than using the time to have a proper discussion it was back to back quick lynches and @PowerLevel9000 took advantage

This is one of those games Town beat themselves and scum just navigated through the chaos
I don't think it was a lack of morale at all. Overconfidence in the PoE, yes. But I didn't see anyone give up hope or anything like that to suggest it was a morale issue.
 
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