[FNZ] Super Role Madness Naruto Shippuden: An Alternate Universe Mafia Game Thread [Game Ended - Mafia Win]

[CATon: Ramen Ignition - Fire Stove Mode] - This was used to warm your food in the past, but now you must use it to survive. Create a box of fire surrounding 1 team Neko member (can self target). The box will amplify the effects of all positive actions targeting that player, additionally, the first harmful action targeting them in this night will be canceled, and its user will have half of their role be burned for the duration the following cycle. [1-shot; Requires Jonin Rank or higher]

@Jan that was the ability I used on Shanks the night he was sealed. The wording also clearly implies it should stop the sealing as it targets an action, but the game was designed for scum to win anyway.
 
I have to say one of the Jinchuuruki being evil crossed my mind. Maybe i could come to it if we had entire day to discuss instead of lynching me in less an hour.

I had doubts about Ratchet being scum then because he was evaluating instead of quick lynching me.
Scum team lucky this chad wasn’t allowed to pop off
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I do wish people would have listened more because when I was going through everything on that last phase before when Melkor was lynched people just had little interest in engaging. I told them why they should too but nothing. No one will give any credit for me doing so either as it only ever gets painted as negative but that's mafia in 2026 for you.
 
This game was fun, I don't really care about wincons when it's about this kind of game, I expected us to loose a few times, but the good moments I had win Power and the others were really fun.
 
I have to say one of the Jinchuuruki being evil crossed my mind. Maybe i could come to it if we had entire day to discuss instead of lynching me in less an hour.

I had doubts about Ratchet being scum then because he was evaluating instead of quick lynching me.
I mean, I reread all roles and WUs and was constantly trying to consider all angles, too. But it’s just bastard and impossible to overcome by normal means. We had almost 90 pages in our chat. With most of them being me trying to solve the game.
 

Yoho

I'm Quite Dandy
I've never been one to complain about these games cause they're just that a game but I do think there was way to many steps for me to unlock abilities

First I had to wait for the scum team ro kill people and then on top of that I had to be promoted

Unfortunately the Kages kept promoting the same people

😐 pretty sure Scum9000 got promoted like 3 times
 
The deal with power's role:

first, to establish that there are no contradictions/bastard elements regarding mafia having a living jinchuriki:
  • it was never stated by me that jinchurikis have to be town aligned. the game mechanics say that certain roles have bijuu inside of them. a strong supporting argument to this is that galaxy was a flipped indie jinchuriki.
  • in the revealed factional abilities and mafia wincon it is only stated that mafia needs to ultimately seal all 9 bijuu, not that they all need to be town.
  • neeko's passive only reveals that the akatsuki have captured and sealed 2 bijuu before the game started. it does not root out that one of the akatsuki is a living jinchuriki that isn't captured or sealed yet.

fun fact: mafia actually were never told what number tailed beast was the second bijuu that they had captured before the game starts (the 6-tailed bijuu). they'd have to take a wild shot at guessing it or potentially use rolecop TMI to determine which bijuu is claimable if they want to fake claim it later. mafia was a team of 9 so each of them could essentially claim a bijuu before getting lynched to at least gain some reactions or even stall their lynch if they happen to claim being the 6-tailed bijuu and sell it well.

next, here are some subtle clues that helps town arrive at finding that one of the mafia can be a bijuu:
  • shuijin's hidden passive, while redacted, subtly opens possibilities to speculate that the akatsuki leader is a jinchuriki or associated with bijuu in some form given the unredacted wording
  • the akatsuki leader dies if sealed normally or via shuijin's hidden ability, but survives if partial sealed. what happens if he partially sealed is that the name of his bijuu is revealed: "poison beetle" which subtly hints at him being the unknown poisoner.
  • the fact that poisons have stopped to happen after power was partial sealed subtly points toward him possibly being the poisoner who lost his poison powers after being sealed.
  • mechanic wise town knew the last scum had a poison healing ability to heal RA, and power claimed such a healing ability. it was his best claimable ability so he's forced into it. of all the flipped mafia roles not a single one had a poison heal. only power does. boa can heal wound/burns, not poisons. basically the mafia poison healer was not flipped and town knew mafia must have had atleast one, which points more fingers to power.
  • you were told at the end of night 1's Kage summit that the Akatsuki leader feels very confident in declaring war against all nations almost like he had a "secret weapon". this was actually a very subtle hint. this secret weapon was the strong jinchuriki claim. this one is too subtle tho and just having fun with the flavor, i dont expect many to pay much attention to it. i only recall charlie did.
  • during the night where power got partial sealed, power chose to protect shanks, not himself like he said he wud do in thread. this is what caused the contradiction in thread and showed that one of the kages is lying. since AM and hayumi flipped town and claimed not responsible for it, the only kage left that could have done it was power.
  • town has to protect the bijuu from being sealed. this includes protecting power stops his bijuu from being sealed and slows the mafia wincon. you aren't being deceived. protecting a jinchuriki, regardless of their alignment, slows mafia's wincon. It's why power was adamant about not being protected in the night he partial sealed himself. this game was mostly about killing mafia before they achieve their wincon. it doesn't matter how many townies die. protecting the bijuu was a mean to delay mafia's wincon, not necessarily save townies.
  • during night 1 it appears that daniel got promoted twice to become jonin and lots players where speculating that cake might have somehow found a way to talk to his team in order to boost daniel. this was true, and the way to do that by design was the land of lightning higher-ups chat where cake gets to talk to paragorn/power, who told him to boost daniel in the chat.

i get that nothing above is a "concrete evidence" against him, and thats intentional because its made to be a strong claim, but the above is enough to get the gears turning and get town to think beyond the faulty "jinchuriki = town locked" idea

thats part of "solving the mystery" so to speak. i don't agree that it was bastard because it was never explicitly stated by the host that all jinchuriki are town, and galaxy was a living proof of that not being the case. i think there were sufficient enough clues to solve this, and many players got close to doing so.

Living Players [5/27]:
  1. @Fujishiro
  2. @Flower
  3. @Paragorn @PowerLevel9000
  4. @Higuma @Jan
  5. @Hayumi --- Revived Day 9
Subs [3/X]:
  1. @Ali v2
  2. @Indigo
  3. @Yo Tan Wa
Dead Players [19/27]:
  1. @bittersweet - Yotsuki Multi-Taste - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 1 (LINK)
  2. @RippedCal - The Shredded Ape - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 1 (LINK)
  3. @York - Yamanaka Inork - Akatsuki - Died Night 1 (LINK)
  4. @SakazOuki - Momochi Sakabuza - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 2 (LINK)
  5. @The Orca - Hoshigaki Korca - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Day 3 (LINK)
  6. @JustJuice - Killer C - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 3 (LINK)
  7. @Daniel - Damn Daniel Ninja Version - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 4 (LINK)
  8. @Michelle - Hatake Michashi - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 4 (LINK)
  9. @Alexis2282AE - Uchiha Byakuya - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 4 (LINK)
  10. @Ultra @Neeko - Urzo the Bearmander - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 4 (LINK)
  11. @BoaHancocksHusband - Mitarashi McBoa-Arm - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 5 (LINK)
  12. @Yoho - Hyuuga Yohabi - Shinobi Alliance - Lynch Day 6 (LINK)
  13. @GalaxyLevelShanks - The Legendary Galaxy Level Baa! - Team Neko - Sealed Day 7 (LINK)
  14. @Random Asshole - Uchiha SauceQue - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 7 (LINK)
  15. @Charlie - Chikamatsu Chuck E. Cheese - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 7 (LINK)
  16. @Polar Bear - Kazahana Polar Express - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9 --- Died again Night 9 (LINK)
  17. @Cadis Etrama Di Urek - Nono Di Yakushi - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 8 (LINK)
  18. @Hayumi - Terumei Hayumei - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9
  19. @Shuijing - Kousei Endou - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 9 (LINK)
  20. @Alwaysmind - Akimichi Cho-Mind - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 9 (LINK)
  21. @Lord Melkor - Ironland Shikasand Guy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 10 (LINK)
  22. @Naomi - Hoshigaki Naomiato - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 10 (LINK)
  23. @Ratchet - Shakuton no Pakuratchy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 11
I actually chose to hide Urek which made Shanks vote useless no matter who they voted cause Urek would have more votes and wouldnt be able to be hidden the following night when we went to seal them. Hayumi not voting to hide me was just a bonus.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I would say it is on par with scum being able to fake a flip of dead player. So yes, kind of bastard but would be okay if there was a warning about bastard elements like Fuji did in his Bleach game when Aizen could fake flips.
I wasn't happy with Fuji in that game either. For me I just feel it's cheap - a subversion of reasonable expectations because you want creativity in your setup. I'm probably less tolerant towards bastard stuff than most players nowadays though so I appreciate I'm on the more extreme anti end. A warning would have gone a long way, yes. But ultimately I should have known better than to play an Ekko game.
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
I wasn't happy with Fuji in that game either. For me I just feel it's cheap - a subversion of reasonable expectations because you want creativity in your setup. I'm probably less tolerant towards bastard stuff than most players nowadays though so I appreciate I'm on the more extreme anti end. A warning would have gone a long way, yes. But ultimately I should have known better than to play an Ekko game.
My game had counterplay to that and had a bastard warning, entire roles dedicated to finding out the fake flips,etc. Its not the same thing lol.
 
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