Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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Did you miss the part where Rayleigh and Gaban stood on equal ground with Roger? If Zoro EoS ~ Mihawk, how the fuck can he the "wings" of a guy that low diffs Roger?
You mean this guy?




It's quite easy, Mihawk's not gonna be Zoro's ultimate ceiling - Zoro will end up reaching the powerlevel of whomever Nika's right wing is supposed to be. It's the same with Sanji. Just like how Luffy will completely eclipse Roger during the final saga, there's no reason to assume his wings will cap to ~PK wings at best.

Your powerscaling make absolutely no sense and will be put in the same bullshit bin as Zoro fanboys thinking he could beat a guy stronger than Mihawk.
It's quite simple: Roger, WB, Xebec, Big Mom and Kaido couldn't do jackshit to one of those ancient gods who merely borrowed (!) someone else's body.

Sure, you can come up with some cope like PK Roger >>>>>>> GV Roger but you're just deluding yourself at this point because this Roger was close to 40 and near his prime.

The issue is you cannot adapt to whatever direction the manga will go. At the end, story >>> made-up powerlevels, that includes Roger's "legacy." Because one thing is clear, Roger was the PK but he's nothing against Joyboy, Davy Jones, Imu, Nika, all the other gods. He's just another pawn in this story who's meant to lead the current generation towards victory - Luffy is the protagonist who will claim the ending. I think this much is quite obvious considering what we've seen in the mural?
 
It's quite easy, Mihawk's not gonna be Zoro's ultimate ceiling - Zoro will end up reaching the powerlevel of whomever Nika's right wing is supposed to be. It's the same with Sanji. Just like how Luffy will completely eclipse Roger during the final saga, there's no reason to assume his wings will cap to ~PK wings at best.
lol no

Luffy

Zoro RHM

Loki LHM

Sanji 6th strongest after Yamato & Himbei
 
Bruh, why oda didnt wanked Loki as he did to Kaido and Xebec.

I always thought that Xebec would be the top 1 because the aura oda give to him when he learned about his existence

But Loki? Everyone thought he was a fodder when we learned about his existence in Whole Cake
 
@Paperchampion23 Oda can have Luffy fight Gunkimu even though she’s female because of the regen. I mean he already had Gunkos top half blown up by Usopp.
Ehhh its very different than having your MC using his fists to beat on a woman in your YA manga. Its ironically less implied violence with Usopp doing this especially since his last 2 fights with women were essentially jumpscares and Gunko can regen. Zoro did the same to Monet. Sanji cant even hit women at all lol, he "defeats" Viola with his lewd thoughts. Franky kissed a woman to defeat her. Luffy straight up sits on Rebecca. Baby 5 is a traumatic victim. The most we see is Brook cutting Giolla with Ice (no blood) and the Dwarves spinning and slamming a bunch of the unconscious villains together to defeat her too. Brook also only cuts Black Maria's fodder with ice moves lol, which just renders them unconscious (again, no blood).

Compare this to the stuff Spandam did to Robin, or the horrible on/offscreen stuff we got Arlong to Bellmere or the CDs to Ginny. Theres a clear throughline here, only villains are portrayed this way. Not even Big Mom was defeated by direct physical punches/attacks by protagonist allies. It was Beams and shockwaves.


Tldr: Women in this series only tend to get defeated by other women or surprises, haki, or really stupid shit lol. I do not believe Imu controlling Gunko changes this at all.
 
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To give you an idea of the size of Loki transformed into a dragon, this giant Luffy is much smaller than one of Loki's transformed horns. If I say that Loki the dragon is 50 times bigger than Kaidou the dragon, I think I'm selling myself short.
Kaido, the world's strongest creature while the world's strongest creature was chained.
 
You mean this guy?




It's quite easy, Mihawk's not gonna be Zoro's ultimate ceiling - Zoro will end up reaching the powerlevel of whomever Nika's right wing is supposed to be. It's the same with Sanji. Just like how Luffy will completely eclipse Roger during the final saga, there's no reason to assume his wings will cap to ~PK wings at best.



It's quite simple: Roger, WB, Xebec, Big Mom and Kaido couldn't do jackshit to one of those ancient gods who merely borrowed (!) someone else's body.

Sure, you can come up with some cope like PK Roger >>>>>>> GV Roger but you're just deluding yourself at this point because this Roger was close to 40 and near his prime.

The issue is you cannot adapt to whatever direction the manga will go. At the end, story >>> made-up powerlevels, that includes Roger's "legacy." Because one thing is clear, Roger was the PK but he's nothing against Joyboy, Davy Jones, Imu, Nika, all the other gods. He's just another pawn in this story who's meant to lead the current generation towards victory - Luffy is the protagonist who will claim the ending. I think this much is quite obvious considering what we've seen in the mural?
Zoro usually becomes capable of defeating his opponents mid to high diff after their fights anyway. That was the case with Daz Bones and King, for example, so it'll probably be the same for Mihawk.
People might call me a Zoro wanker for this but I've been saying for a while that Zoro will probably solo sky split when he defeats Mihawk and will also forge 3 black blades at once.
 
You mean this guy?




It's quite easy, Mihawk's not gonna be Zoro's ultimate ceiling - Zoro will end up reaching the powerlevel of whomever Nika's right wing is supposed to be. It's the same with Sanji. Just like how Luffy will completely eclipse Roger during the final saga, there's no reason to assume his wings will cap to ~PK wings at best.



It's quite simple: Roger, WB, Xebec, Big Mom and Kaido couldn't do jackshit to one of those ancient gods who merely borrowed (!) someone else's body.

Sure, you can come up with some cope like PK Roger >>>>>>> GV Roger but you're just deluding yourself at this point because this Roger was close to 40 and near his prime.

The issue is you cannot adapt to whatever direction the manga will go. At the end, story >>> made-up powerlevels, that includes Roger's "legacy." Because one thing is clear, Roger was the PK but he's nothing against Joyboy, Davy Jones, Imu, Nika, all the other gods. He's just another pawn in this story who's meant to lead the current generation towards victory - Luffy is the protagonist who will claim the ending. I think this much is quite obvious considering what we've seen in the mural?
Mihawk is Zoro's EoS battle. What the fuck are you even talking about? Zoro still has so much to learn to get there. And you're basically saying that level is worthless.

And GV Roger + GV Garp could take down DR Xebec, let alone HK Harald. We saw how they did it. Retired Gaban + Young Shanks simply didn't meet that bar.
 
Blood lusted WB was going to destroy MF post ace death and failed to do so :willight:
WB got in 2 or 3 attack with people still on island before he get killed lol.

FFS CAN YOU GUYS FUCKING READ THE MANGA, WB WAS NEVER HOLDING BACK HE WAS LITERALLY DYING SICK AND HAD NO VERY LITTLE TO NO HAKI
He was holding back the man made huge gap in island so his crew could get away .
Sengoku said now that he don't have worry about ace he could sink MF even at cost of his life.
Him being old and sick did not stop the man from flipping half the island in theory he should be able to do than to any island .
 
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