Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[OPKnK]

doing all your scaling based on 1 point of the graph thats is the odd one out while everything else points to 1 direction is just agenda.

I not doing all my scaling off 1 point .
I counting everything luffy has done in G5 and his haki to have him at that level.
He only issue is his stamina limit which is why i won't say he 100% there but in G5 he is to that level easy.
This arc will also 100% make sure of that even if it was not the case before.

 

[soupongo]

Yeah you can say i granting Luffy abilities he don't have but then again we don't know his G5 limit .
Oda can have it any way he want during his fights .

We have averages, Luffy at most has had 2 usages back to back, nearly dying afterwards. Since then, he´s pretty consistently had 1 usage. It´s pretty clear that g5 has a major strain on Luffys body that he can´t really handle. It´s not something he can spam.

Oda can have it any way he want during his fights .
If he wants it to last as long as fight happening he can or if he want him to go back into like kaido he can.
.

Is there anyone who actually doesn´t know One Piece is a work of fiction he´s made? Obviously he can do whatever he wants, who even argues otherwise? We´re just arguing based on what Luffy has actually shown in the story, which is pretty much the only thing we can know for sure.

 

[Dragon777]

Luffy and Kaido split the sky for miles but rocks and Harald did not during first meet or fight .
We know sky split is get use for hype as you said DR rocks did it him self showing off his haki only other person being joyboy .

Becuase Harald and Xebec did something better than the general skyplit.

And anyway, skyplit as of now Is completely outdated. Oda doesn't even show It anymore unless It is a solo skysplit.

 

[Shyneseru]

Domi Loki theory is almost as dumb as
Zkk

Why ? Because he's too strong ? Then what is even the point of this arc if Imu just gets sent back to Mariejoie and that’s it ?

 

[OPKnK]

We have averages, Luffy at most has had 2 usages back to back, nearly dying afterwards. Since then, he´s pretty consistently had 1 usage. It´s pretty clear that g5 has a major strain on Luffys body that he can´t really handle. It´s not something he can spam.

Is there anyone who actually doesn´t know One Piece is a work of fiction he´s made? Obviously he can do whatever he wants, who even argues otherwise? We´re just arguing based on what Luffy has actually shown in the story, which is pretty much the only thing we can know for sure.

I mean my comment is he to there level in G5 which i think he is .
When he out i think it closer than people think now that he can do G4 moves without going into G4 and can use all the advance haki stuff with it .
I was just saying how insane it would be if he did not have that limit IMO he would be much stronger than them .
Which is why he have his limit till near the end .

 

[sanjikun]

Loki getting a worlds strongest title only furthers my belief that blackbeard is gonna clean up at the end of this arc

He didn't get a world's strongest title. The title refers to the Elbaf prophecy.

 

[Ven437]

Lawcucks wanking his puny willy that could not even beat an old fat woman who canonically has the weakest insides
forever 2nd to Kid

Pizzarucuck still crying his yellow monkey got the AP of a rubber duck and the title of admiral got offscreen-sidequest diffed as a hypetool to an old legend or became subordinate to a yonko

 

[OPKnK]

Becuase Harald and Xebec did something better than the general skyplit.

And anyway, skyplit as of now Is completely outdated. Oda doesn't even show It anymore unless It is a solo skysplit.

How is it out date ?
It only been 1 arc since we last saw it one.
You don't think we get a sky split this arc if loki or luffy clash with gunko Imu .
Plus it will never be out date cause you know Zoro and mihawk will have one during there fight .

 

[Dragon777]

Btw It's crazy how Oda went basically 1:1 in the parallel Kaido-Loki. He has reproduced Kaido's distinctive characteristics 1:1, improving them:

- like Kaido, Loki has all the rhetoric of the monster, anomaly, etc... but in fact much better, being a sort of ancient mutant giant while Kaido was “only” an Oni;

- Kaido was the unstoppable thug of his random nation, but Loki is that of Erbaf, the nation of War;

- Loki, as a newborn, replicated Kaido's demonstration, falling from Yggdrasil and surviving.

- Like Kaido, Loki repeatedly attempts suicide by throwing himself from Yggdrasil but fails (and as a child, a fruitless child: not a 60-year-old with a fruit).

- Kaido had elemental powers. Loki, in his first half-demonstration, throws the biggest lightning bolt seen in the manga;

- as we have recently seen, Kaido went above and beyond for his dragon fruit...just to turn out to be the second category Dragon fruit and for Loki to have the great OG, "more legendary" Dragon fruit, the legendary fruit of Erbaf actually relevant for the big plot against Imu;

- even the weapon. Both have blunt weapons: Kaido had a normal club; Loki has a mythical zoan hammer that seems to be as strong as a top-tier itself;

- Kaido was said to be the WSC, Loki now Is called the world strongest existence according the main prophecy/history of the manga.

And I'm sure I've forgotten a few .

Really, Oda went 1:1 and gave Loki the much better version of everything.

 

[soupongo]

@Dragon777
So what do you think of Loki´s fruit being Nidhogg and not Fenrir? Ngl, I´m a bit disappointed, Fenrir has a lot more details around him, and as the symbolism of him being chained up, destined to kill Odin, is just too interesting imo. Nidhogg to my understanding is a lot more vague? Like, he´s involved in Ragnarok and chews on the big tree, I guess?

Either way, I kind of wish we just had a normal norse themed arc with Loki having a crew with other zoans related to norse and maybe other European mythologies. Though I guess we have Shamrock with the Cerberus fruit, maybe he and the other figarlands could have Greek mythology related fruits? Idk, but it would be a good way to separate them from the rest of the Gorosei.

 

[Ven437]

Btw It's crazy how Oda went basically 1:1 in the parallel Kaido-Loki. He has reproduced Kaido's distinctive characteristics 1:1, improving them:

- like Kaido, Loki has all the rhetoric of the monster, anomaly, etc... but in fact much better, being a sort of ancient mutant giant while Kaido was “only” an Oni;

- Kaido was the unstoppable thug of his random nation, but Loki is that of Erbaf, the nation of War;

- Loki, as a newborn, replicated Kaido's demonstration, falling from Yggdrasil and surviving.

- Like Kaido, Loki repeatedly attempts suicide by throwing himself from Yggdrasil but fails (and as a child, a fruitless child: not a 60-year-old with a fruit).

- Kaido had elemental powers. Loki, in his first half-demonstration, throws the biggest lightning bolt seen in the manga;

- as we have recently seen, Kaido went above and beyond for his dragon fruit...just to turn out to be the second category Dragon fruit and for Loki to have the great OG, "more legendary" Dragon fruit, the legendary fruit of Erbaf actually relevant for the big plot against Imu;

- even the weapon. Both have blunt weapons: Kaido had a normal club; Loki has a mythical zoan hammer that seems to be as strong as a top-tier itself;

- Kaido was said to be the WSC, Loki now Is called the world strongest existence according the main prophecy/history of the manga.

And I'm sure I've forgotten a few .

Really, Oda went 1:1 and gave Loki the much better version of everything.

@The DevilMaster

 

[OPKnK]

Loki now Is called the world strongest existence according the main prophecy/history of the manga.

Where was this said ?

 

[vikas]

Another freaking Dragon..

And it's black

 

[TheD.]

Btw It's crazy how Oda went basically 1:1 in the parallel Kaido-Loki. He has reproduced Kaido's distinctive characteristics 1:1, improving them:

- like Kaido, Loki has all the rhetoric of the monster, anomaly, etc... but in fact much better, being a sort of ancient mutant giant while Kaido was “only” an Oni;

- Kaido was the unstoppable thug of his random nation, but Loki is that of Erbaf, the nation of War;

- Loki, as a newborn, replicated Kaido's demonstration, falling from Yggdrasil and surviving.

- Like Kaido, Loki repeatedly attempts suicide by throwing himself from Yggdrasil but fails (and as a child, a fruitless child: not a 60-year-old with a fruit).

- Kaido had elemental powers. Loki, in his first half-demonstration, throws the biggest lightning bolt seen in the manga;

- as we have recently seen, Kaido went above and beyond for his dragon fruit...just to turn out to be the second category Dragon fruit and for Loki to have the great OG, "more legendary" Dragon fruit, the legendary fruit of Erbaf actually relevant for the big plot against Imu;

- even the weapon. Both have blunt weapons: Kaido had a normal club; Loki has a mythical zoan hammer that seems to be as strong as a top-tier itself;

- Kaido was said to be the WSC, Loki now Is called the world strongest existence according the main prophecy/history of the manga.

And I'm sure I've forgotten a few .

Really, Oda went 1:1 and gave Loki the much better version of everything.

I’m 99% sure some characters are gonna make a connection about this in story too.

 

[MonsterZoro]

spoiler providers are ruining one piece its disgusting what this place has turned into

im glad i left the providing business when i did

 

[vikas]

how does oda keep introducing character stronger then zoro every arc

first yamato then now loki

He is done playing with zoro and SHs

 

[Horo Horo Musume]

spoiler providers are ruining one piece its disgusting what this place has turned into

im glad i left the providing business when i did

Shut up and just tell me what sanji does this chapter.

 

[Dragon777]

How is it out date ?
It only been 1 arc since we last saw it one.
You don't think we get a sky split this arc if loki or luffy clash with gunko Imu .
Plus it will never be out date cause you know Zoro and mihawk will have one during there fight .

Oda might, and likely will, show it sometime, but has completely lost relevance and more so: importance.

We had multiple characters who should have skysplit and didn't: from Harald and Xebec (twice) to Roger and WB. And others who didn't clash but according to the logic, Oda should have made them clash to show they were on that level (Garp, Oden).

As of now Xebec, Harald, Garp, Oden have never skysplit and never will. And Lolden aside, every one of them was clearly well beyond the level to do so and had the chance to be showed doing it.
And even Roger never really split the sky clearly, since even during his clash witn WB the Sky wasn't in fact showed split in two.

Simply, It's not at all a realiable benchmark anymore. Oda might show It or not, but one can be well beyond the level required to do so and still never been showed splitting the sky.

 

[sanjikun]

spoiler providers are ruining one piece its disgusting what this place has turned into

im glad i left the providing business when i did

Taxes too high.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Why ? Because he's too strong ? Then what is even the point of this arc if Imu just gets sent back to Mariejoie and that’s it ?

What does Domi'ing Loki do for the arc alternatively lol? It still ends with Imu being sent back and just makes Luffy's scaling dumb as shit