Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[Loki D. Terror]

No, Loki hurting Harald never happened.
Everything Loki did to him was instantly regenerated which means he couldnt even match Rocks' feat against Garling when regen was slowed down significantly.
Second thing, we have no clue why Imu's control was interrupted. You want to credit Loki's haki but the fact remains that we have no idea why. In fact, when Loki was slapping Harald around no haki was used to begin with.

No, living longer doesnt make Harald stronger, this is the same nonsense people said about Kaido in last 20 years. When you are in prime and you possess aCoC, there is no more strength waiting for you in 10-20 years.

HK is inferior to DR, Imu confirmed this himself when he demonified Giants. Bigger drawback results in bigger rewards.

Loki dominated Harald physically, that doesnt place his feat above Garp+Roger feat, lol.
Once again, the biggest difference in their feats is that Rocks didnt drop his haki defenses while Harald did and that makes Loki's feat extremely lame, on par with Garling killing Rocks.

Wrong, Garp+Roger are the first ones who killed a regen user because DR also grants regen.
Loki's aCoC is not above Roger pirates, it is exactly the same haki.
Imu is shook because he had a covenant forged with Harald while he didnt with Rocks and it has a drawback for him. It is a matter of reading comprehension...

Bruh everything you said is opposite of manga. Harald at 2 different time periods kept up with xebec's growth. You saying he didn't become stronger in 20 plus years makes no sense given he was hunting pirates.

DR doesn't give regen. Hence xebec perma killed his dad and grandmother. HKs have regen. DR is a normal amp imu can give to anyone. HK amp is special amp given to select few chosen one. HK amp has to be more relevant amp. Saying otherwise is illogical.

We do know it was loki dominating harald badly which cut his connection to imu. We saw loki beating harald just before his connection with imu got cut.

Roger pirates including Roger never got past HK regen. Loki did it with his haki alone.

Loki > HK harald >> DR xebec = Roger + Garp is manga facts.

Loki's haki is beyond PK level.

 

[Salah WG]

A Castle you don't know how big, and in which a single room had a human village inside, with sky and whatnot:

This was a small part of a single room of that castle.
I don't know if I am able to explain how big is it.

Not to mention Loki could have used the hybird and we don't know.

And not to mention, you are just picking a single scene, trying to push that Loki's dimensions compared to the castle are for some reason more relevant than Loki's dimensions compared to everything else, which is cherry picking anyway.

And last but not least, Kaido too was shown being fully transformed inside Onigashima:

Dude, did I say Castle is small?
I didnt check any dimensions, all I said is that Loki was Transformed inside it, even if One Piece wasn't drawn and it was just written, anyone wd discover the same, cuz that's what happened, He transformed inside the castle, period.

Also I'm not comparing castle to anything except the branch it's resting on, did you read me comparing it to Onigashima? All I said is that We can use events happening on top of that branch to have an idea about Loki Dragon's Size,

So far We don't have enough events except Gaban's and Jinbe's Attacks,
And I said I dont know who's bigger between Loki and Kaidou, following chapters will reveal more.

If you want to believe that Loki is +50 times bigger than Kaido, then you must also believe that Gaban's or Jinbe's Attacks were big enough to cover 50-100 kaidous, making not just Kaidou but every attack he ever performed or received look tiny,

I don't know why are you debating with someone who said he doesn't know who's bigger,
If you want to scale Loki that big from a single panel and single appearance then you're free to do so.

 

[Sentinel]

I think that's too much mental gymnastics. The narrative was clear:

• Only Loki was said to be able to stop Harald
• Loki bodied Harald as if he was a toddler
• Imu was shocked, pissed his pants and stood out of Elbaf for a long time

Nothing else matters.

Is this uncle still coping about?

 

[Topi Jerami]

Ok Topi, go back to sleep.

What? Asking for sleeping together?
Sorry but I am not that kind of guy

Anyway, western dragon's fate is sealed.
ZKK may not happened, but Zoro Beheads Loki is coming

 

[Cruxroux]

Redon? That's what he said:


To give you an idea of the size of Loki transformed into a dragon, this giant Luffy is much smaller than one of Loki's transformed horns. If I say that Loki the dragon is 50 times bigger than Kaidou the dragon, I think I'm selling myself short.

I'm talking about Salah WG lol. Not redon.

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Fair he doesn't: he hasn't seen the scans. I too "haven't".

The fact is that every leaker who has says there Is not even compairson. Even Redon, who Is usually quite conservative on deductions.

We see giant Luffy, we see Ragnir, we see (I suppose) the Giant children compared to Loki when he saves them, we see (according to Will of Marco) Loki dawarfing the Nightmares the end (and we previously saw how bigger then NM were compared to giants).

We have plenty of compairson.

What are you insecure about lol?

We know he will be huge and that's fine. Salah WG point was only that he will be blown out of proportion initially and never trust Size with Oda.

We Have Kaidou drawfing ancient giants. And on the other side something else entirely.

 

[Dragon777]

Dude, did I say Castle is small?
I didnt check any dimensions, all I said is that Loki was Transformed inside it, even if One Piece wasn't drawn and it was just written, anyone wd discover the same, cuz that's what happened, He transformed inside the castle, period.

Then, since the castle is incredibly big, that doesn't tell us anything.

Also I'm not comparing castle to anything except the branch it's resting on, did you read me comparing it to Onigashima? All I said is that We can use events happening on top of that branch to have an idea about Loki Dragon's Size,

Not really. First you said you don't trust proportions, but then you cherry-pick one branch just to downsize the castle? And why Jinbe's attack shouldn't be the one attack way out of proportion then?

You are deliberately cherry-picking the scenes you find most advantageous and rejecting the others for supposedly untrustworthiness when it's exactly the same.

Not to mention it's a tree: not all branches have the same size ever.

I don't know why are you debating with someone who said he doesn't know who's bigger,
If you want to scale Loki that big from a single panel and single appearance then you're free to do so.

It not one panel thoungh, that's what I am telling you.

We see Loki compared to:

- giant Luffy
- Ragnir
- the giant children
- the NM:

 

[NikaInParis]

If Loki doesn't show any attack of this scale Oda is a fraud

Aah, Toriko. What could have been...

 

[Topi Jerami]

No, Loki hurting Harald never happened.
Everything Loki did to him was instantly regenerated which means he couldnt even match Rocks' feat against Garling when regen was slowed down significantly.
Second thing, we have no clue why Imu's control was interrupted. You want to credit Loki's haki but the fact remains that we have no idea why. In fact, when Loki was slapping Harald around no haki was used to begin with.

No, living longer doesnt make Harald stronger, this is the same nonsense people said about Kaido in last 20 years. When you are in prime and you possess aCoC, there is no more strength waiting for you in 10-20 years.

HK is inferior to DR, Imu confirmed this himself when he demonified Giants. Bigger drawback results in bigger rewards.

Loki dominated Harald physically, that doesnt place his feat above Garp+Roger feat, lol.
Once again, the biggest difference in their feats is that Rocks didnt drop his haki defenses while Harald did and that makes Loki's feat extremely lame, on par with Garling killing Rocks.

Wrong, Garp+Roger are the first ones who killed a regen user because DR also grants regen.
Loki's aCoC is not above Roger pirates, it is exactly the same haki.
Imu is shook because he had a covenant forged with Harald while he didnt with Rocks and it has a drawback for him. It is a matter of reading comprehension...

Loki is below Zoro let alone Mihawk but the certain clown is pushing Loki's squirrel weapon > Mihawk

 

[Cruxroux]

If Loki doesn't show any attack of this scale Oda is a fraud

Day oda does this, I'll get my inevitable win.

 

[NikaInParis]

Bruh everything you said is opposite of manga.

Welcome to that fandom's reading comprehension.

 

[Dragon777]

What are you insecure about lol?

We know he will be huge and that's fine. Salah WG point was only that he will be blown out of proportion initially and never trust Size with Oda.

We Have Kaidou drawfing ancient giants. And on the other side something else entirely.

I'm not. I just find laguhable trying to spin that "we don't know" when we have basically 5 comparisons in this chapter and all leakers on the face of the planet agreeing with each other.

Also, I don't even know why this battle about Loki's size even started. What's the point lol? And wasn't it already obvious that Erbaf's mythical zoan would have been much bigger than any other mythical zoan since at Erbaf everything is bigger?

There are going to be scenes in which Loki looks smaller than now as there have been plenty of scenes of Kaido looking smaller than his first appearance in Kuri. It's the same every time.

 

[Cruxroux]

Also, I don't even know why this battle about Loki's size even started. What's the point lol? And wasn't it already obvious that Erbaf's mythical zoan would have been much bigger than any other mythical zoan since at Erbaf everything is bigger?

As simple as that. Nobody is doubting it blud.

But scale is something we don't know yet. We will see it sooner or later. So relax till then lmao.

 

[Raiden7]

So Loki used hybrid against harald?

Everyone with eyes already knew that

 

[Chaves]

How Loki transformed must compare to Zunisha? Blazing Bagua Kaido was the size of the whole onigashima…
When Loki turned into the castle, it must have been just the hybrid form, because I believe that something the size of zunisha would not fit in the castle

 

[Boiroy]

Can anyone confirm on which chapter loki will be killed

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Loki vs Gojo?
Who will win

 

[Halyup]

Aah, Toriko. What could have been...

Another one of eichiro oda bff

 

[fanboy]

After Elbaf rankings:
1. Luffy
2. Loki
3. Brook
4. Hajruddin (CoC awakening)
5. Scooper Gaban
6-7. Zoro and Sanji
…
Last place: Ussop

 

[NikaInParis]

Another one of eichiro oda bff

Oh yeah, I know.
The idea behind the manga was cool, but now knowing it's written by a literal pedo gives me the creeps

 

[Paragorn]

Day oda does this, I'll get my inevitable win.

 

[RiShin]

If Loki doesn't show any attack of this scale Oda is a fraud

However the Toriko verse is way stronger than the one piece verse. So not really tbf.