Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion
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Huh?
I didn't question what They saw lol
I said I dont use Panels to scale Sizes, because Oda never tries to be accurate,
You want me to show you panel where Mihawk looks 5 Meters tall?
Loki fits inside their Castle Corridors, meaning He is as big as a portion of that Castle, which is just a single area in that single branch where most events are happening right now,
I gave example with Fire that Jinbe dealt with so you can compare too.
I didn't question what They saw lol
I said I dont use Panels to scale Sizes, because Oda never tries to be accurate,
You want me to show you panel where Mihawk looks 5 Meters tall?
Loki fits inside their Castle Corridors, meaning He is as big as a portion of that Castle, which is just a single area in that single branch where most events are happening right now,
I gave example with Fire that Jinbe dealt with so you can compare too.
Want me to show the panels in which Kaido seems 100m at best?
We know Oda is unreliable, so we scale accordingly, using other characters to judge.
Every leaker said with certainty that there is no room for being wrong about Loki being (way) bigger. Literally everyone who has seen the raws. I don't know why we should have any concern.
A single room of the castle had a mini Erbaf built inside.
Anyway, we saw Loki compared to:
- giant Luffy
- Ragnir
- the giant children
- the NM who he dwarfs (and the NM were far bigger than any giant, ancient or not)
We have plenty of comparisons.
We know Oda is unreliable, so we scale accordingly, using other characters to judge.
Every leaker said with certainty that there is no room for being wrong about Loki being (way) bigger. Literally everyone who has seen the raws. I don't know why we should have any concern.
A single room of the castle had a mini Erbaf built inside.
Anyway, we saw Loki compared to:
- giant Luffy
- Ragnir
- the giant children
- the NM who he dwarfs (and the NM were far bigger than any giant, ancient or not)
We have plenty of comparisons.
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If through direct scaling we find out that the giant Luffy from Onigashima's roof top is indeed smaller than Loki's horn, then it just means Loki shifted his size to fit inside the castle (maybe through his hybrid form). Direct side by side comparison (Luffy next to Loki and both next to the giant children they caught) is as direct of a scaling as Oda intends it.
The fact spoilers emphasized giant Luffy suggests, there has to be direct scaling involved, e.g. Luffy holding some giant kids.
The fact spoilers emphasized giant Luffy suggests, there has to be direct scaling involved, e.g. Luffy holding some giant kids.
No, Loki hurting Harald never happened.
Everything Loki did to him was instantly regenerated which means he couldnt even match Rocks' feat against Garling when regen was slowed down significantly.
Second thing, we have no clue why Imu's control was interrupted. You want to credit Loki's haki but the fact remains that we have no idea why. In fact, when Loki was slapping Harald around no haki was used to begin with.
No, living longer doesnt make Harald stronger, this is the same nonsense people said about Kaido in last 20 years. When you are in prime and you possess aCoC, there is no more strength waiting for you in 10-20 years.
HK is inferior to DR, Imu confirmed this himself when he demonified Giants. Bigger drawback results in bigger rewards.
Loki dominated Harald physically, that doesnt place his feat above Garp+Roger feat, lol.
Once again, the biggest difference in their feats is that Rocks didnt drop his haki defenses while Harald did and that makes Loki's feat extremely lame, on par with Garling killing Rocks.
Wrong, Garp+Roger are the first ones who killed a regen user because DR also grants regen.
Loki's aCoC is not above Roger pirates, it is exactly the same haki.
Imu is shook because he had a covenant forged with Harald while he didnt with Rocks and it has a drawback for him. It is a matter of reading comprehension...
Everything Loki did to him was instantly regenerated which means he couldnt even match Rocks' feat against Garling when regen was slowed down significantly.
Second thing, we have no clue why Imu's control was interrupted. You want to credit Loki's haki but the fact remains that we have no idea why. In fact, when Loki was slapping Harald around no haki was used to begin with.
No, living longer doesnt make Harald stronger, this is the same nonsense people said about Kaido in last 20 years. When you are in prime and you possess aCoC, there is no more strength waiting for you in 10-20 years.
HK is inferior to DR, Imu confirmed this himself when he demonified Giants. Bigger drawback results in bigger rewards.
Loki dominated Harald physically, that doesnt place his feat above Garp+Roger feat, lol.
Once again, the biggest difference in their feats is that Rocks didnt drop his haki defenses while Harald did and that makes Loki's feat extremely lame, on par with Garling killing Rocks.
Wrong, Garp+Roger are the first ones who killed a regen user because DR also grants regen.
Loki's aCoC is not above Roger pirates, it is exactly the same haki.
Imu is shook because he had a covenant forged with Harald while he didnt with Rocks and it has a drawback for him. It is a matter of reading comprehension...
Exactly, Oda doesn't draw accurate sizes, so I don't use any panels to judge sizes,
I just make my own conclusions using statements and what said characters achieved with their size,
If you want to rely on comparing character sizes using panels then no one is stopping you, I don't have to follow suit,
All I know is that Loki is Size of a portion of that Castle which is a single area among many on that single tree branch,
Only things I can use to compare are Gaban's Attack that destroyed portion of the castle and Jinbe's Technique that stopped flames blocking entire path on that branch,
If you want to believe those Two moves were 100 times bigger than anything we've seen on Rooftop let alone Kaidou himself, then be my guest.
I just make my own conclusions using statements and what said characters achieved with their size,
If you want to rely on comparing character sizes using panels then no one is stopping you, I don't have to follow suit,
All I know is that Loki is Size of a portion of that Castle which is a single area among many on that single tree branch,
Only things I can use to compare are Gaban's Attack that destroyed portion of the castle and Jinbe's Technique that stopped flames blocking entire path on that branch,
If you want to believe those Two moves were 100 times bigger than anything we've seen on Rooftop let alone Kaidou himself, then be my guest.
A Castle you don't know how big, and in which a single room had a human village inside, with sky and whatnot:
This was a small part of a single room of that castle.
I don't know if I am able to explain how big is it.
Not to mention Loki could have used the hybird and we don't know.
And not to mention, you are just picking a single scene, trying to push that Loki's dimensions compared to the castle are for some reason more relevant than Loki's dimensions compared to everything else, which is cherry picking anyway.
And last but not least, Kaido too was shown being fully transformed inside Onigashima:
This was a small part of a single room of that castle.
I don't know if I am able to explain how big is it.
Not to mention Loki could have used the hybird and we don't know.
And not to mention, you are just picking a single scene, trying to push that Loki's dimensions compared to the castle are for some reason more relevant than Loki's dimensions compared to everything else, which is cherry picking anyway.
And last but not least, Kaido too was shown being fully transformed inside Onigashima:
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