Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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nik87

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I think that's too much mental gymnastics. The narrative was clear:
  • Only Loki was said to be able to stop Harald
  • Loki bodied Harald as if he was a toddler
  • Imu was shocked, pissed his pants and stood out of Elbaf for a long time
Nothing else matters.
You too are falling victim to this hype wave, huh?
There are no mental gymnastics, only facts.
There are explanations for all your points if you are thinking logically, understanding what you read and not ignoring context...

1 - yes because of a DF which grants what exactly? Size that neutralizes Harald's size advantage over all others.
2 - never happened unless you wanna say Luffy bodied Kaido in Kuri due to doing the same - slapping him around.
3 - Imu doesnt know the context of Harald's death, that the reason why he was killed was because he himself dropped his haki defenses.

Bruh everything you said is opposite of manga. Harald at 2 different time periods kept up with xebec's growth. You saying he didn't become stronger in 20 plus years makes no sense given he was hunting pirates.

DR doesn't give regen. Hence xebec perma killed his dad and grandmother. HKs have regen. DR is a normal amp imu can give to anyone. HK amp is special amp given to select few chosen one. HK amp has to be more relevant amp. Saying otherwise is illogical.

We do know it was loki dominating harald badly which cut his connection to imu. We saw loki beating harald just before his connection with imu got cut.

Roger pirates including Roger never got past HK regen. Loki did it with his haki alone.

Loki > HK harald >> DR xebec = Roger + Garp is manga facts.

Loki's haki is beyond PK level.
You are wrong about everything...
Once you are in prime, you are no longer growing stronger. There is no >keeping up with growth.
You can only grow weaker, not stronger.
He grew stronger from hunting pirates just like Mihawk grew stronger by hunting Krieg's fleet?

DR DOES give regen, read Imu's words...
DR amp is superior to HK amp because it gives the exactly same benefits but comes with a cost of a life span and it is logical that DR is superior due to that negative trade-off.

Physical superiority does not break hax effects so we will have to wait to find out what broke Imu's control.

You keep saying Loki bypassed regen while he didnt... Harald literally regenerated everything Loki did to him and no damage managed to stick, only after Harald removed his haki defenses, the attack worked. Roger literally got past Xebec's regen, lol...

Roger+Garp>DR Xebec> HK Harald>Loki
If you dont understand this, you arent doing it properly...
 
Even if he were to awaken CoC it would be turned into a gag moment.

realistically though what can usopp do atp ?

You have Imu here and anyone who will fight / interact with him will get his fair share of fans happy
You have Loki being called the strongest, having a badass DF etc etc
Zoro mastering CoC usage
Luffy being Luffy
Brook already clashing with Imu and has deep connection with Gunko



What can the lad do ?
 
You too are falling victim to this hype wave, huh?
There are no mental gymnastics, only facts.
There are explanations for all your points if you are thinking logically, understanding what you read and not ignoring context...

1 - yes because of a DF which grants what exactly? Size that neutralizes Harald's size advantage over all others.
2 - never happened unless you wanna say Luffy bodied Kaido in Kuri due to doing the same - slapping him around.
3 - Imu doesnt know the context of Harald's death, that the reason why he was killed was because he himself dropped his haki defenses.


You are wrong about everything...
Once you are in prime, you are no longer growing stronger. There is no >keeping up with growth.
You can only grow weaker, not stronger.
He grew stronger from hunting pirates just like Mihawk grew stronger by hunting Krieg's fleet?

DR DOES give regen, read Imu's words...
DR amp is superior to HK amp because it gives the exactly same benefits but comes with a cost of a life span and it is logical that DR is superior due to that negative trade-off.

Physical superiority does not break hax effects so we will have to wait to find out what broke Imu's control.

You keep saying Loki bypassed regen while he didnt... Harald literally regenerated everything Loki did to him and no damage managed to stick, only after Harald removed his haki defenses, the attack worked. Roger literally got past Xebec's regen, lol...

Roger+Garp>DR Xebec> HK Harald>Loki
If you dont understand this, you arent doing it properly...
Doesn’t happen often but I fully agree with @nik87 here. All his points are 100% valid and logical and not based on the current hype vagone.
 
Then, since the castle is incredibly big, that doesn't tell us anything.
It's not about how big castle is, it's about simple size order,
Loki is Size of a portion of castle,
Castle is Size of a portion of branch 8,

Gaban's Attack destroyed an entire tower of that Castle,
Jinbe's Attack covered flames that were blocking entire path on that same branch,
So Loki is comparable to both Attacks,

Did this simple deduction without needing not even a single panel, just from Story events,
Over time, we will see more feats on that branch and we can use them to get even closer to Loki's accurate size,

I'm not comparing castles or comparing branches, I'm just talking about same castle and same branch,
Branch Number 8 >>>>> Harald Castle >>> Loki,
 
It's not about how big castle is, it's about simple size order,
Loki is Size of a portion of castle,
Castle is Size of a portion of branch 8,

Gaban's Attack destroyed an entire tower of that Castle,
Jinbe's Attack covered flames that were blocking entire path on that same branch,
So Loki is comparable to both Attacks,

Did this simple deduction without needing not even a single panel, just from Story events,
Over time, we will see more feats on that branch and we can use them to get even closer to Loki's accurate size,

I'm not comparing castles or comparing branches, I'm just talking about same castle and same branch,
Branch Number 8 >>>>> Harald Castle >>> Loki,
You keep saying Jinbe covered the entire branch of the castle, but that is not true. That was simply one of the routes of the branch, which is clearly much larger on it's own:




Not to mention, as said, even if you are arbitrarily choosing this feat of Jinbe to be "size accurate" rather than oversized.

But anyway, it's not even close to being the main/whole branch.
 
What? Asking for sleeping together?
Sorry but I am not that kind of guy
You sure you're not on the closet bro? 😂
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The One Piece fandom is seriously cooked if they question whether dragon X is smaller or bigger than dragon Y even though spoilers mention the giant MC being smaller than dragon X' horn... The same giant MC was comparable to dragon Y in several panels.
 
realistically though what can usopp do atp ?

You have Imu here and anyone who will fight / interact with him will get his fair share of fans happy
You have Loki being called the strongest, having a badass DF etc etc
Zoro mastering CoC usage
Luffy being Luffy
Brook already clashing with Imu and has deep connection with Gunko



What can the lad do ?
His role now is to fill panel space and pad out the story.
 
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