Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[nik87]

Nik actually said Kaido > Mihawk because he's the WSC and now he's trying to frame it as if Loki isn't the strongest even though the chapter title is literally calling him the strongest
lol

@sanjikun

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Shanks is stronger than Loki

the strongest of all time
1 Mihawk
2 Shanks
3 Shamrock
4 loki

Mihawk shouldn't even be so high on the list for Strongest of all time lol

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

If Loki is co-Sun God, then he is effectively the co-MC of the story

No, it just mean Loki is a foil to Luffy. Did yall think Oda was done introducing Luffy foils into the manga or what?

Loki is the legit cataclysmic world ender, he is the character who will bring cataclysm and violently end the world by Elbaph prophecy.

Meanwhile Luffy is the joyful world ender, he will end the world through joys and laughter and all that fairy tale Nakama bullshit.

It’s really a depressing thought that you guys thought Oda already introduced the strongest motherfuckers in the manga 30 years ago, and the OP world was just completely devoid of interesting secret characters like Loki and the Burning Man. Lol

 

[Nadel]

As Shamrock have said
Nothing will change even if he's not on chains

Exactly,...Shamrock was always stronger.

 

[Hako Sama]

Oh man.

 

[comrade]

Nik actually said Kaido > Mihawk because he's the WSC and now he's trying to frame it as if Loki isn't the strongest even though the chapter title is literally calling him the strongest
lol

Well, Nik says Mihawk > Kaido because Mihawk's generation is excluded from Kaido's title. 🤓

 

[Hellon]

This "EoS Luffy" is the same bullshit argument ZKKers were making and they had a stronger argument then. "Zoro is stronger now, but it's ok cause EoS Luffy will be stronger".

Luffy is already maxed out: awakening, CoC awakening, FS, ACoA. You're not going to have Wano-level boosts anymore.

Buddy that doesn´t mean he is NOT going to get stronger, sure he hit his peak with his fruit but he still is going to get genuinely stronger thanks to being a juiced-up crackhead.

 

[Halyup]

Exactly,...Shamrock was always stronger.

The twins clears Loki
Twins have both Davy lineage and celestials

 

[Sentinel]

Shanks is stronger than Loki

the strongest of all time
1 Mihawk
2 Shanks
3 Shamrock
4 loki

Shanks captured Loki, that's what Gaban stated. So where's the part when Loki was apparently defeated by Shanks? Everyone mentions how Luffy beat Kaido, even Gaban, but somehow Gaban chose to describe this event as "capturing" Loki.

 

[nik87]

Well, Nik says Mihawk > Kaido because Mihawk's generation is excluded from Kaido's title. 🤓

If you are gonna speak in my name, at least quote me properly instead of inserting your own words.

 

[Halyup]

@sanjikun

Shanks easily above Kaido/Loki

 

[Shiroyru]

No, it just mean Loki is a foil to Luffy. Did yall think Oda was done introducing Luffy foils into the manga or what?

Loki is the legit cataclysmic world ender, he is the character who will bring cataclysm and violently end the world by Elbaph prophecy.

Meanwhile Luffy is the joyful world ended, he will end the world through joys and laughter and all that fairy tale Nakama bullshit.

It’s really a depressing thought that you guys thought Oda already introduced the strongest motherfuckers in the manga 30 years ago, and the OP world was just completely devoid of interesting secret characters like Loki and the Burning Man. Lol

Loki can still serve as a foil to Sun God Luffy by being the Forest God, who was portrayed as being relative to Nika in the Harley text. Again, why is there no mention of 2 Sun Gods in the Harley text? And why would there not be 2 Sea Gods, Earth Gods, and Forest Gods in the case? It just opens up a can of worms that doesn’t need to be opened. The story will be much simpler and more coherent if Loki is the Forest God rather than being another Sun God or a Sun God top companion that is just never mentioned in the ELBAF Harley text because reasons.

 

[nik87]

Shanks easily above Kaido/Loki

Actually, Shanks is locked under Kaido for now, as are the other 4 among Kaido's top 5.
He has a chance to grow stronger than Kaido if he awakens the Zoan inside his sword but that remains to be seen.

 

[Levi]

Title cope is hilarious after decades of whining about it now it’s do we accept it or no? All based on agenda, funny shit.

 

[Xione]

Oda was seriously so bad at scaling Wano in his drawings. I mean, we even got a full view on Alabasta as a country, while Oda kept things vague with Wano. At least he stopped this nonsense with Elbaf.

The World Tree is significantly larger than 20km tho. It wouldn't make sense for such a country to be Zunisha's size.

Yea I agree, only scaling thing for Wano we have the arrow ri comment but that doesn't really tell us Wano's actual size, but even with Alabasta, that place is just straight up huge, since we're told that river is like 50kms wide. I don't think the zoomed out version would've told us the size of Alabasta as a whole, without that info. And drawing Birds eye view for Wano would've been tough, since it's already so high in the clouds, ngl.

Spoiler

Well, I just can't see it being any more than 20,000 meters bro, I legit can't.

- Zunisha as a whole, from bottom of the sea to the top is 5,000 meters. With only about 2,000 meters of it being above water.

- Skypeia is at 10,000 meters.

I'm giving it 20,000 meters, which is by far the highest peak shown so far in One Piece, for us that'd be touching the Ozone layer damn near.
That's still 10x bigger than country of Zou (which was less than 2km btw). Even when we're lookin at the traveling they're doing between the sunworld and the underworld, bruh it's not taking them that long to go back and forth. Wano from end to end is gonna take days to travel.

 

[Zemlya]

This chapter is straight up 5/5 just because it exposed the agendabros regarding WS titles.
They instantly jumped onto a WS title when it fits their agenda while they spent a decade denying them.

Loki brigade for 1 day experienced what mihawkbros have had forever
@Worstgenhq gave them a 24 hour free trial

 

[soupongo]

@soupongo Ngl if Oda actually just does make Loki’s fruit into an ancient companion of Nika, or another half of the Sun God, I think it’s safe to say that Oda is just winging th 1st/2nd world lore. It just creates too many head scratchers.

1. Why is Nika’s black dragon companion never mentioned in the Harley text while the Earth God’s companion (Hellfire Serpent) is?
2. Why did Xebec think the Elbaf fruit could overcome Imu if it’s just Nika’s pet?
3. Why would Loki, a guy introduced like 90% of the way through the story, become effectively the deuteragonist of the story (which would kinda have to be the case if he is the other half of the Sun God or the Sun God’s #1 companion)?
4. If the dragon on the tree is just a Nika underling or 2nd Nika, then where tf is the Forest God on the mural?
5. Why was Loki’s fruit hyped to be a world ending threat if it’s objectively not even a top 4 fruit?
6. Why is Loki way more powerful than Sun God Luffy rn?
7. Why isn’t Ragnir just serving Nika directly, and instead following Nika’s pet?

Loki being the Forest God makes the story much simpler and much more coherent. Hope Oda doesn’t fumble this

Yeah, there should just be a giant who was the forrest god who the Davys would know about, which would explain Xebec knowing about it, and not the Nika shit. That was clearly an intentional choice on Odas part, Xebec pretty much knew about everything but the Nika fruit, lol.

 

[sanjikun]

Some very pointless math, cause Oda is not consistent at all, but it seems Loki's horns should be at least as big as Blazing Bagua, maybe even bigger.

BB Kaido might still overall be longer though cause he's a snake shaped dragon. Let's wait and see.

 

[Dragon777]

Nothing can even be argued against this. Kaido doesn’t have a single credible strength trait above Loki.

You forgot to mention that Loki’s CoC is above Kaido’s as well. Loki’s CoC matched Harald’s, and Loki’s CoC allowed him to straight up murder Harald, which neither Saint Shanks or Gaban could do with their CoC, and both of them have superior to CoC to Kaido

Really.
The uncanny thing is that Oda really went 1:1 with Loki and Kaido, and gave Loki the far better version of everything.

Some try to sell Loki as if he had some weka haki when he, in fact, clashed with HK Harald even pre-fruit lol. And DR Xebec was ragdolling 40 YO Roger and Garp.

 

[Hako Sama]

Loki has done more damage to the Yonko agenda than Power Rangers fans could ever dream of. The guys who used to dick ride Kaido are now throwing him to trash, just to upscale Loki. lmfao
Have some shame, man