Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion
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I mean I’m still going to wank kaido feats above ppl like admirals and up there with roger and wb but I don’t see why @Blazing Lion said im fraud 😂😂
@Loki D. Terror completely jumped ship
@Loki D. Terror completely jumped ship
For me, Loki is for Nika like Pegasus was for Zeus, but we call Pegasus = Zeus, no.
It even kinda ironic, because Loki can also bring Thunderbolts to Luffy.
So, Loki is Luffy's Pegasus.
Same entity?
No
But they have great chemical together.
It even kinda ironic, because Loki can also bring Thunderbolts to Luffy.
So, Loki is Luffy's Pegasus.
Same entity?
No
But they have great chemical together.
Well, I don´t want to argue about the lore that we know pretty much know nothing about, but I´d be shocked if there would be a better opportunity to introduce the 4 gods, especially the serpent one in the current story, then being one of the fruits that Rocks was looking for, and a treasure in Elbaf guarded by an allegedly top tier for centuries. It feels borderline confirmed to me personally.
I haven´t really though too much about the harley text, but after a quick look, the forest God not appearing in the first text seems to help the case for it being Loki, since he´s probably going to be the least important of the four, with Luffy and Imu obviously being bigger deals story wise. Idk about depictions, but Nidhogg is related to the world tree in norse mythology I guess.
Still, agree to disagree.
I haven´t really though too much about the harley text, but after a quick look, the forest God not appearing in the first text seems to help the case for it being Loki, since he´s probably going to be the least important of the four, with Luffy and Imu obviously being bigger deals story wise. Idk about depictions, but Nidhogg is related to the world tree in norse mythology I guess.
Still, agree to disagree.
Sure.
Feel better now.
But since you want to count the title that means you also have to count the author notes at the end of chapter 1035 that said Zoro's DD has the power to slay a dragon with one swing. Dang, Zoro already had the power to defeat Loki before he met him.
Feel better now.
But since you want to count the title that means you also have to count the author notes at the end of chapter 1035 that said Zoro's DD has the power to slay a dragon with one swing. Dang, Zoro already had the power to defeat Loki before he met him.
It just means Kings dragon could be slain. It’s just a way to create hype. Not all dragons can be one shot. Massive cope LMFAOOOO
Idk what to tell you lol.
Kaido was hyped for hundreds of chapters because of his "dubious" human status: "creature", "thing", and so on. Even BM said "thing", if I remember correctly. In Wano, Kaido himself talked about this to Yamato, who, being Kaido's daughter, was called the Oni princess. And Kaido said, explicitly, that she would be feared and used for the powers because of this (as him): explicitly.
Now, we have Loki, with basically the same problem, feared and hated even by his own mother because he turned out to be a mutant ancient giant, far stronger than anyone and far scarier, as his eyes and his resilience demonstrated.
I don't really know what's so difficult about this.
Only, obviously, mutant ancient giant >> Oni.
What did his trauma have to do with it lol? I was talking about his hype as a fighter.
Kaiod was hyped as the strongest thug of Vodka. Loki too was hyped as the strongest thug of a nation... only his nation was the strongest in the world and the birthplace of war (another thing Kaido filled his mouth with).
For the rest of us is crystal clear.
Kaido was hyped because he survived the fall as a 60 YO prime emperor with dragon scales. Oda thought of having Loki survive the fall from Adam as a toddler and trying the same suicide Kaido tried, but as a fruitless child, and admitting, as Kaido, that he was even unable to kill himself. As a fruitless child, not a 60 YO with dragon scales (but again, mutant ancient giant >> Oni, so).
Seems as straightforward as it could get to me, for us surely is, but if even now I have failed to convey why, I cannot do more.
Why the hell we are we talking about the size of weapons lol?
The point was that Kaido's AoE elemental powers looked pitiful compared to Loki, the other dragon. The only thing really worthy was the flaming torch, but that was Kaido's crown jewel, and we have barely seen Loki doing... anything.
It was, more so because the others were Kuma's (great fruit, but not on that level) and basically no other we know of.
Having said that, we have two mythical dragon fruits now:
- on one hand, there is Loki's dragon/god (?) fruit, legendary fruit of Erbaf, harbinger of Ragnarok, an entity likely present in the Harley among gods, relevant for the EoS, key element of Xebec's plan to dominate the world, objective of even Imu, etc.;
- on the other hand, there is Kaido/Momo's: one of the prizes the CDs simply bet on the massacre game of GV, no interest from Imu or Xebec whatsoever, no relevance for the big plot, no legendary status, no God status, no Harely, etc.
What's the stronger, better dragon fruit? I'll let you decide, even though it seems beyond clear to me. That is not to say Kaido's fruit wasn't strong: it was, a lot, and was why Kaido was strong, but simply it's not in the same category as Loki's, who is the real, stronger mythical dragon zoan.
On his own, Ragnir is worth a top tier. In theory, even Harald wasn't sure he could beat it.
Sure as hell is way better than Kaido's Kanabo.
Kaido was hyped for hundreds of chapters because of his "dubious" human status: "creature", "thing", and so on. Even BM said "thing", if I remember correctly. In Wano, Kaido himself talked about this to Yamato, who, being Kaido's daughter, was called the Oni princess. And Kaido said, explicitly, that she would be feared and used for the powers because of this (as him): explicitly.
Now, we have Loki, with basically the same problem, feared and hated even by his own mother because he turned out to be a mutant ancient giant, far stronger than anyone and far scarier, as his eyes and his resilience demonstrated.
I don't really know what's so difficult about this.
Only, obviously, mutant ancient giant >> Oni.
What did his trauma have to do with it lol? I was talking about his hype as a fighter.
Kaiod was hyped as the strongest thug of Vodka. Loki too was hyped as the strongest thug of a nation... only his nation was the strongest in the world and the birthplace of war (another thing Kaido filled his mouth with).
For the rest of us is crystal clear.
Kaido was hyped because he survived the fall as a 60 YO prime emperor with dragon scales. Oda thought of having Loki survive the fall from Adam as a toddler and trying the same suicide Kaido tried, but as a fruitless child, and admitting, as Kaido, that he was even unable to kill himself. As a fruitless child, not a 60 YO with dragon scales (but again, mutant ancient giant >> Oni, so).
Seems as straightforward as it could get to me, for us surely is, but if even now I have failed to convey why, I cannot do more.
Why the hell we are we talking about the size of weapons lol?
The point was that Kaido's AoE elemental powers looked pitiful compared to Loki, the other dragon. The only thing really worthy was the flaming torch, but that was Kaido's crown jewel, and we have barely seen Loki doing... anything.
It was, more so because the others were Kuma's (great fruit, but not on that level) and basically no other we know of.
Having said that, we have two mythical dragon fruits now:
- on one hand, there is Loki's dragon/god (?) fruit, legendary fruit of Erbaf, harbinger of Ragnarok, an entity likely present in the Harley among gods, relevant for the EoS, key element of Xebec's plan to dominate the world, objective of even Imu, etc.;
- on the other hand, there is Kaido/Momo's: one of the prizes the CDs simply bet on the massacre game of GV, no interest from Imu or Xebec whatsoever, no relevance for the big plot, no legendary status, no God status, no Harely, etc.
What's the stronger, better dragon fruit? I'll let you decide, even though it seems beyond clear to me. That is not to say Kaido's fruit wasn't strong: it was, a lot, and was why Kaido was strong, but simply it's not in the same category as Loki's, who is the real, stronger mythical dragon zoan.
On his own, Ragnir is worth a top tier. In theory, even Harald wasn't sure he could beat it.
Sure as hell is way better than Kaido's Kanabo.
The youngest Admiral we've known so far. It's pretty clear who the forest God. Y'all will continue to deny what is clear in our faces, due to some gag shit Oda wanted to get off. It's not a mere coincidence this man single-handedly restored Wano's vitality. And proceeded to let us know The Forest = The Sea.
This is the strongest marine in history.
This is the strongest marine in history.
As if nearly 80% of current Kaido supporters aren't just Zoro fans trying to push another agenda cuz Rumor man was the first top tier who got scarred by Zoro. As if I don't know your game bud.
Levi and MonsterKaido just realised how strong Loki is. There's no shame in admitting he's stronger than Kaido unlike the chronic copers in this thread.
Levi and MonsterKaido just realised how strong Loki is. There's no shame in admitting he's stronger than Kaido unlike the chronic copers in this thread.
@Shiroyru @TheAncientCenturion
Besides the Loki stuff(which who really cares anyway, Zoans are getting a bit boring), the best part about this chapter is Sommers pointing out that Imu made some mistake, while Imu is personally on the island after killing a Gorosei lol. This dude is really not afraid of getting killed lmfao, how powerful is the Shepard family lobby in Mariejois?
Besides the Loki stuff(which who really cares anyway, Zoans are getting a bit boring), the best part about this chapter is Sommers pointing out that Imu made some mistake, while Imu is personally on the island after killing a Gorosei lol. This dude is really not afraid of getting killed lmfao, how powerful is the Shepard family lobby in Mariejois?
I would just ask yourself this: Elbaph essentially worships Nika and knows enough about him to know what he sort of looked like right? Why do none of them know what Loki actually is then as well? They've guarded the fruit for hundreds of years. They have the Harley text in front of them, its been studied and not one of them actually specifies if Loki's fruit is a deity fruit like Luffy's.
Worse yet, Imu doesnt recognize Loki's power. Which tells me no one has used it in the last 900 years at least (i.e. why I dont think its the Forest or Sea Gods because Imu would presumably know about it).
Personally I think Imu is the Earth God and has an affiliation with a Hell Serpent, but thats just me, given they fought the Sun God.
But yeah we can agree to disagree on this and wait and see what gets stated.
Worse yet, Imu doesnt recognize Loki's power. Which tells me no one has used it in the last 900 years at least (i.e. why I dont think its the Forest or Sea Gods because Imu would presumably know about it).
Personally I think Imu is the Earth God and has an affiliation with a Hell Serpent, but thats just me, given they fought the Sun God.
But yeah we can agree to disagree on this and wait and see what gets stated.
The youngest Admiral we've known so far. It's pretty clear who the forest God. Y'all will continue to deny what is clear in our faces, due to some gag shit Oda wanted to get off. It's not a mere coincidence this man single-handedly restored Wano's vitality. And proceeded to let us know The Forest = The Sea.
This is the strongest marine in history.
This is the strongest marine in history.
The youngest Admiral we've known so far. It's pretty clear who the forest God. Y'all will continue to deny what is clear in our faces, due to some gag shit Oda wanted to get off. It's not a mere coincidence this man single-handedly restored Wano's vitality. And proceeded to let us know The Forest = The Sea.
This is the strongest marine in history.
This is the strongest marine in history.
Kizaru - sun god
Akainu - earth god
Fujitora - rain god
Ryokugyu - forest god
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