Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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Yeah yeah, I know.

I was making a joke about people actually saying that we couldn't know if Loki was bigger because Oda's proportions etc.

The only even remotely plausible debate is about flaming torch Kaido, which isn't even really Kaido but Kaido covered in flames.
Flaming Torch Kaido is really big like 5x bigger than Dragon Kaido at least

Giant Luffy should be around the size of Flame Kaido (upper) horn I think but nothing more

 
Loki's AOE/DC is 20x Whitebeard's Aoe/DC

Wano is 14-15x onigashima --






And onigashima is larger than marineford if not at least comparable to marineford.

WB's biggest AOE/DC feat --





Elbaph is bare minimum wano sized if not bigger given it takes days for giants to go from one part to another in elbaph.

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Even if we take it at face value where does it say “all dragons” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Congrats on being able to kill fertilisers and fodder PH dragons @CbShadow
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Zoro already had the power to kill PH dragons and killed one so it doesn't make any sense for the manga to be talking about those type of dragons.

King is harder to damage than Kaido. A attack that can take out King would be more effective against Kaido. It really is that simple.
 
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Interest, Loki hasn't awakened his DF which means his peak hasn't been reached yet. We will see more of his power evolve through out the fight.
Funny this guy knows I will search his twit to find the answer.
Anyway, Kaido and Yamato had those even in animal form, but weren't awakened.

Flaming Torch Kaido is really big like 5x bigger than Dragon Kaido at least

Giant Luffy should be around the size of Flame Kaido (upper) horn I think but nothing more

Yeah, I too think Loki should be fairly bigger.

And anyway, bigger =/ longer. An anaconda might be faily longer than a polar bear, but it's clear the polar bear is overall many times more massive/bigger. At best, Flame Torch Kaido would be like a long eel compared to a massive Dragon many times more massive.

But in the end I think Loki will turn out to be longer too. And anyway, only flame torch (which again is not really Kaido, but flames shaped around Kaido) is debatable, surely not base zoan Kaido.
 
Sure.
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Feel better now.

But since you want to count the title that means you also have to count the author notes at the end of chapter 1035 that said Zoro's DD has the power to slay a dragon with one swing. Dang, Zoro already had the power to defeat Loki before he met him.

The schizos really spent 100 pages seething over Mihawk and Zoro fans just to get cooked by this? Embarrassing. :shocked:
 
Flaming Torch Kaido is really big like 5x bigger than Dragon Kaido at least

Giant Luffy should be around the size of Flame Kaido (upper) horn I think but nothing more

I think this one fits very well, since Luffy and Ragnir are in similar position.
While Kaido being extrem long in Flame Bagua, Loki is extrem big, really has a big body.
So yeah Dragon Loki being big as Onigashima could be something legit lol
 
I think this one fits very well, since Luffy and Ragnir are in similar position.
While Kaido being extrem long in Flame Bagua, Loki is extrem big, really has a big body.
So yeah Dragon Loki being big as Onigashima could be something legit lol
And anyway, It's an eel vs bear type of campairson.
Even if the eel Is longer, It's by far less massive. It's clear who Is bigger.

Even if flame torch was Indeed longer, which idk. Not to mention that Isn't even Kaido, but simply falmes shaped like him.
 
King is harder to damage than Kaido. A attack that can take out King would be more effective against Kaido. It really is that simple.
Not really. King is more durable than Kaido sure but his AP is trash compared to Kaidos. And King isnt a dragon by himself, it's an attack. So Zoro sliced through King's durability + AP. So even if King is more durable, Kaido's AP gap and the durability + AP overall sum easily eclipse that of King's dragon attack so Zoro cant do shit to Kaido if Kaido is using an AP attack, especially his high end moves.

The durability gap between Kaidos and Kings durability is also not that much during flames OFF mode.
 
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