Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1175 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

God level Enel can slaughter Kaido and Big Mom combined. Look how big his attacks are. He can vaporize entire islands.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

That caricature Nidhogg already outscales Kaido..

At this point Loki being much bigger than Kaido isn't up to debate, even a human with the fruit would be the biggest dragon. Only debate is the magnitude really

 

[soupongo]

I just think as a general rule of storytelling, you’re probably not going to have a new character come in and completely steal the show, overshadowing long standing legacy characters. Especially ones directly linked to Luffy, like his wings or his rivals. Loki is doing this in Elbaf. But you still have Lodestar, Laugh Tale, and Mariejois before the series ends.

Okay, but this is just an unreasonable standard against Loki. Yes, he was introduced late, but it's not like that inherently means he has to be weaker than legacy characters actually. Even Vegeta wasn't originally a legacy character, in battle shonen manga, characters introduced later on are usually stronger anyway.

Again, you're convincing yourself Kidd and Law got sent away(they just lost, lol...).... to surpass Roger/Yonko etc. Loki has literally already done that, and obviously what actually happened means more than headcanon speculation

Obviously Loki will be glazed in Elbaf. Elbaf is Loki’s arc, just as Wano was Kaido’s. But there’s a reason why we didn’t see what happened with Loki vs Shanks yet, just as there is a reason it wasn’t specified what dragon Ryuma killed. Loki will be powercrept and the legacy characters have a decent chance of doing it.

1. Elbaf is Imu's arc, not Lokis. Loki is being given importance as someone who can fight Imu, but he isn't the main antagonist of the arc.
2. It wasn't specified the type of Dragon Ryuma killed because it's not important to the story lmfao. Don't expect Oda to explain every little thing that's happened in the series, some stuff is just lore. And why are you using speculation about what possibly could have happened to a previous Nidhogg fruit, in the chapter we find out that the OG user literally rivaled Nika lmfao? Again, what actually happened in the manga>Headcanon speculation
3. The reason why we didn't see Loki vs Shanks is the reason why we didn't see most of Loki's life. It's not relevant to Imu, the arc villains. Oda literally told us it happened, so it's not like the goal is protecting Loki's image.

 

[Kishido]

@Kishido Ragnir ate the squirrel fruit imo

Well yeah... Magic and all.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So how the fuck has an squirrel ended up in Ragnir?



Makes no sense. What next level shit is this?

Ancient kingdoms were advanced, who’s to say they couldn’t do something similar to Vega

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Can some explain via panels what zoro is doing / did

 

[Fujishiro]

Hmm, he blacked himself

 

[D. Plant]

Loki's lightning nuke can destroy an island, that blast is way bigger than Garp's Galaxy Impact.

 

[SakazOuki]

At this point Loki being much bigger than Kaido isn't up to debate, even a human with the fruit would be the biggest dragon. Only debate is the magnitude really

Even Leo would automatically be bigger than Kaido

 

[soupongo]

Can some explain via panels what zoro is doing / did

His master Goofy, is helping his name reach the heavens

1 shp dream done, only like 9 more to go

 

[Crow]

It does seems like Nika can either become white or black, maybe something to do with his whether the user is good or bad person or not.

The black one is the bad one?

 

[Sentinel]

MMA monsters from the perspective regular giants

@Shiroyru See? That's how huge the MMA creatures look like in comparison to giants where they even look like ordinary humans. One of them is as large as an ELBAF mountain and Dragon Loki dwarfs like 20 of them. The same dragon mode was massively outscaled by the Breath attack in size.

I was being generous at Loki's Breath being 100x the size of a tailed beast bomb.

 

[kumae]

Coming back from work and see
Mobility ✅
Blocking and protect the children ✅
Taking down half of the giants ✅
Giving luffy orders✅

 

[Kishido]

Ancient kingdoms were advanced, who’s to say they couldn’t do something similar to Vega

No we had devil fruits into objects. And not a damn ice squirrel fussing with a hammer. I would understand it, if Ragnir would have a DF but instead we see the squirrel outside of the hammer in the flashback

 

[Sentinel]

God level Enel can slaughter Kaido and Big Mom combined. Look how big his attacks are. He can vaporize entire islands.

1.) Yes, Kaido or Big Mom would be decently damaged from taking this attack.
2.) Loki's Breath attack scales significantly larger than Raigou AND it is coated with ACoC:

You know the full raw scans are out, right?

 

[comrade]

God level Enel can slaughter Kaido and Big Mom combined. Look how big his attacks are. He can vaporize entire islands.

I mean, that attack in all honesty would be quite taxing even for Kaido. That thing can easily level islands. Though Raigo isn't specifically made for combat, Loki's lightning breath is more suitable for quick and precise usage. Not to mention Loki can amp his attacks with CoC and has a Zoan body far superior to Kaido's.

Kaido is a worm compared to Nidhogg. You doubt Loki's lightning breath would do much to Kaido, yet you think Kaido's flame will be relevant to Nidhogg?

 

[centurion]

Hi

any Shimotsuki Ryumor fans

 

[Loki D. Terror]

1.) Yes, Kaido or Big Mom would be decently damaged from taking this attack.
2.) Loki's Breath attack scales significantly larger than Raigou AND it is coated with ACoC:

You know the full raw scans are out, right?

Loki's attack is 10x raigo bare minimum easy.

 

[comrade]

Never forget Xebec's plan on taking over the world revolved around getting Nidhogg, while Imu himself takes special interest in him, while Kaido's fruit wasn't even the main prize for the Celestial Dragon fodder hunt.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

1. Elbaf is Imu's arc, not Lokis. Loki is being given importance as someone who can fight Imu, but he isn't the main antagonist of the arc.

nah

Loki will never be more relevant than he is now in Elbaf.

Imu isn’t even physically on the island. We don’t even know his backstory, his powers, or even what he looks like.

While Loki was always strong, being a high top tier since 14 years ago, the human characters are rapidly growing in strength at a rate Loki just isn’t.

Loki is strong and important. But he’s not the end all be all. If Oda can introduce top tiers like him and Shamrock out of nowhere, you really think we won’t get massive boosts to legacy characters or new characters that even outshine Loki?

Really nothing stopping the burn scar man or maybe a lunarian from powercliffing