Chapter Discussion So it's confirmed Loki didn't beat Ragnir?

#3
no

it just means Ragnir finally acknowledged someone strong enough, and so it doesn't need to guard anymore

"It finally made it's choice" means it chose someone strong enough. That's Loki.
Agree with an asterisk. I believe Harald was strong enough. Issue was that he refused to listen to Xebec and he lacked an older mentor/idol. Loki saw all his fathers faults and looked up to Xebec, he refuses to bow down to the WGs tyranny.

Haralds believed in peace. But peace without strength (nation, values, integrity) equals war and submission. It's the same scenario as in the real world, the best way to preserve peace is to be so strong (financial, military, connections) that no one bothers to try to conquer you.
 
#4
He's said to have been "waiting for his master to return someday", and waited for centuries until he decided to choose Loki as his new wielder.
I take it that this means Loki is probably the reincarnation of the god of Elbaf (the way Luffy is probably a reincarnation of Roger, Joyboy or Nika, and Zoro a reincarnation of Ryuma) and is meant to be as strong as he was.
 
#9
Except this chapter confirmed that ragnir was waiting God of wars reincarnation like nika-luffy. Not pure strength related
Incorrect, if Ragnir chose off of kingship and reincarnation then ragnir would not have attacked Loki first.

It’s said by Harald that it chose off of strength and not kingship quit coping

read the damn manga,one peice fans have to be the only fandom I’ve seen deny what the source material says just to push out their own headcannon



 
#10
Incorrect, if Ragnir chose off of kingship and reincarnation then ragnir would not have attacked Loki first.

It’s said by Harald that it chose off of strength and not kingship quit coping

read the damn manga,one peice fans have to be the only fandom I’ve seen deny what the source material says just to push out their own headcannon



Harald was strong enough to make what Ragnir wanted irrelevant, so it wouldn't actually be choosing by strength.
 
#11
Harald was strong enough to make what Ragnir wanted irrelevant, so it wouldn't actually be choosing by strength.
What??? So it denied hundred of elbaf kings because of what? It wasn’t strength? I guess Harald saying with my current strength Ragnir would’ve chose me was incorrect but hey idk
 
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#12
What??? So it denied hundred of elbaf kings because of what? It wasn’t strength? I guess Harald saying with my current strength Ragnir would’ve chose me was incorrect but hey idk
Harald was cut off before he could conclude his statement. He says "with my current strength" though.

My first post was pointing out that no matter what Ragnir actually wanted, it couldn't guard the fruit from Harald. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that.
 
#18
Except this chapter confirmed that ragnir was waiting God of wars reincarnation like nika-luffy. Not pure strength related
It’s a pure strength test, Loki convinced the squirrel by smacking him in the head with aCoC. His hammer broke, but Ragnir was sent flying. The fact that Loki’s hammer broke is a testament to Ragnir’s own power. Maybe Harald can’t even recreate the damage that Loki did to Ragnir.
 
#19
You are assuming it chose him when what we know is that it was/is happy with Loki as Nidhogg

"It would have" doesn't exist.
Ragnir was happy there was someone strong enough like his last master,it’s quite literally stated more than once that Ragnir only chooses the strong i mean jarul literally said the reason why it was so feared was because of ragnir guarding it.

I don’t know what you’re trying to imply that ragnir only chose Loki because Loki made Ragnir happy lol? I don’t get it just accept that Loki is strong bro i don’t get what you achieve by denying this lol.
 
#20
@Fn Lucci i guess it’s kinda hard it even was for me to believe Loki was this strong naturally without any training or haki blooms and at 16 years old was already stronger than hundreds of generations of Ancient giant kings.But to me Loki seems to be some sort of mutant
 
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