Controversial General Political Discussion

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

@Roo Since you mentioned Gulf countries attacking Iran: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ge-allies-to-help-trump-find-off-ramp-on-iran

They are looking to end the war diplomatically.
These states never were military powers, and never will be. The article also cites that they may run out of interceptors in a short time span at this rate (4 day for Qatar and a week at most for the UAE). Striking at the oil/LNG facilities made them realize how dire their situation is, I doubt they'll escalate.

it might be too soon to call their situation dire
I really doubt Iran as such who had years to prepare for such a scenario is in an dire situation after a weekend.
Becoming predictable already would really suprise me .


Kinda reminds me about the talks when Russia went to war with Ukraine ,and sources of all media where saying after months russia will run out of resources.
Yeah 4 years later it‘s still going

 

[Apollo]

Rome first

Syria Palestina second

No appreciation for Constantinople? Smh

You could have also mentioned Shuaib PBUH Miqdad/Ammar/Abu Dhar PBUH and even Fatima herself (RA), and several Early Sufi Sages that we venerate and are studied by our Shiekhs

Yes, but I mentioned Al-Hakim since -afaik- he is the most revered in your theology.

That doesn't really change my point about Gulf Arabs , especially their modern arrogance in spite of their irrelevance since the Syrian half Christian Muawiya

You mean Yazid right? Since both Muawiya's mothers were muslim women.

I don't see him mentioned that often by other arabs, when they should be pushing him as someone who should be up there with Shakespeare

He is mentioned quite often I think, as he is part of the Muallaqat poets. Though I feel we don't give enough care for poetry or literature in general.

 

[Apollo]

it might be too soon to call their situation dire
I really doubt Iran as such who had years to prepare for such a scenario is in an dire situation after a weekend.
Becoming predictable already would really suprise me .


Kinda reminds me about the talks when Russia went to war with Ukraine ,and sources of all media where saying after months russia will run out of resources.
Yeah 4 years later it‘s still going

They're trying to buy more interceptors because their own storages are being absorbed. The doctrine requires firing at least 2 missiles to intercept a single object (drone or missile). This is a known problem since every exchange between Iran and Israel, and now Gulf states will have to face the same challenge.

 

[Roo]

No appreciation for Constantinople? Smh


Yes, but I mentioned Al-Hakim since -afaik- he is the most revered in your theology.

You mean Yazid right? Since both Muawiya's mothers were muslim women.


He is mentioned quite often I think, as he is part of the Muallaqat poets. Though I feel we don't give enough care for poetry or literature in general.

We get the Middle East second and then we can do a pincer movement

anyways what happened to the taliban and Pakistani war

 

[Midnight Delight]

Yes, but I mentioned Al-Hakim since -afaik- he is the most revered in your theology.

He is

Since both Muawiya's mothers were muslim women.

Theology wise, especially if the Maronite Chronicles are to be believed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronite_Chronicle_of_664

 

[Jew D. Boy]

At least the last time this whole “Deeply unpopular Republican president initiates needless war in the Middle East without congressional or public approval” thing went down a couple decades ago, Dubya’s government was crafty enough to orchestrate 9/11 as a point of incitement

“mIsS mE yEt??” Unfortunately, yeah, a little bit…

 

[Jiihad]

“mIsS mE yEt??” Unfortunately, yeah, a little bit…

Right never thought I’d see a time where mfs was really like “….damn well take Bush”

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Right never thought I’d see a time where mfs was really like “….damn well take Bush”

The problem with choosing between the lesser of two evils is that you’re choosing evil either way

 

[Jiihad]

The problem with choosing between the lesser of two evils is that you’re choosing evil either way

It was choose between LITERAL evil or a black woman……those were tha choices and this is what we got smh LMAO

 

[Reborn]

Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., on Monday said following a classified briefing with Secretary of State Marco Rubio that the U.S.'s attack on Iran was a "defensive operation," the goal of which was not regime change.

"Israel was determined to act in their own defense here. With or without American support. Why? Because Israel faced what they deemed to be an existential threat," Johnson told reporters at the Capitol following the briefing.

"The objective was to take out those missiles, the short and midrange missiles, and their ability to produce them," Johnson said, adding that the second objective was to eliminate Iran's naval capabilities. "The ayatollah is no more. That was not the mission of the U.S. to go in and take out the regime, but that happened and in my estimation that is a great development for freedom loving people around the world."



@RayanOO @LANJI CUCKSMOKE

 

[Jew D. Boy]

It was choose between LITERAL evil or a black woman……those were tha choices and this is what we got smh LMAO

Yeah, God fuckin’ forbid we let a woman take the reins…what happens if she gets emotional on her period? Is she gonna institute tariffs against countries she doesn’t like? Start a senseless war because she felt slighted? Give tax breaks to her rich pedophile friends while the rest of us can barely afford to live? Good thing we don’t have a volatile, unpredictable monster like that in charge…OH WAI-*explosions*

 

[Halyup]

Yeah, God fuckin’ forbid we let a woman take the reins…what happens if she gets emotional on her period? Is she gonna institute tariffs against countries she doesn’t like? Start a senseless war because she felt slighted? Give her rich friends tax breaks? Good thing we don’t have a volatile, unpredictable monster like that in charge…OH WAI-*explosions*

Nothing will change
Both candidates will follow Netanyahu

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Nothing will change
Both candidates will follow Netanyahu

Nothing would change in that regard, but I reject the rest of your premise straight out of hand, there’s truly no way Kamala would have done this much damage in a single year (mostly because every conservative in the government would pull an Obama 2.0 and stymy any plans she had to actually improve quality of life for American citizens) or been more mercurial and bitchy than Donnie.

 

[Reborn]

Since October 7th, Israel is continuously on an offense. Palestine, Lebanon and Iran

Just weapons supply won't be enough for Israel to sustain this.

How much funding Israel is receiving from US to sustain this economically?

 

[Halyup]

Since October 7th, Israel is continuously on an offense. Palestine, Lebanon and Iran

Just weapons supply won't be enough for Israel to sustain this.

How much funding Israel is receiving from US to sustain this economically?

They receive 3.8 billion USD annually via the 10 yr MOU signed in 2019
500 million of these used for Iron Dome .. David sling and arrow system

Amount they received since 2023
2023 3.8 billion
2024 18 billion
2025 7.8 Billion

 

[Halyup]

Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., on Monday said following a classified briefing with Secretary of State Marco Rubio that the U.S.'s attack on Iran was a "defensive operation," the goal of which was not regime change.

"Israel was determined to act in their own defense here. With or without American support. Why? Because Israel faced what they deemed to be an existential threat," Johnson told reporters at the Capitol following the briefing.

"The objective was to take out those missiles, the short and midrange missiles, and their ability to produce them," Johnson said, adding that the second objective was to eliminate Iran's naval capabilities. "The ayatollah is no more. That was not the mission of the U.S. to go in and take out the regime, but that happened and in my estimation that is a great development for freedom loving people around the world."



@RayanOO @LANJI CUCKSMOKE

Donny looking for a quick exit lol

 

[Roo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2028650075002380637

Looks like the Kurds might be involved.

 

[Halyup]

They're trying to buy more interceptors because their own storages are being absorbed. The doctrine requires firing at least 2 missiles to intercept a single object (drone or missile). This is a known problem since every exchange between Iran and Israel, and now Gulf states will have to face the same challenge.

Math favors Iran in that exchange
Drones are cheap easy to manufacture

 

[Roo]

Since October 7th, Israel is continuously on an offense. Palestine, Lebanon and Iran

Just weapons supply won't be enough for Israel to sustain this.

How much funding Israel is receiving from US to sustain this economically?

buddy, nobody backed by the us will ever run out of weapons lol

 

[Reborn]

Donny looking for a quick exit lol

American assets in the Gulf are suffering heavy damages. I guess no one anticipated Iran to attack the US assets in the Gulf nations and risk opening so many fronts.


It's crazy from Iran but it's like a wounded and cornerd lion is more ferocious because it's about survival now.

Trump has to ensure exit asap because long drawn out war will backfire domestically (election wise) and internationally as well.