Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1176: WITH GREAT PRIDE

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#67
While i generally agree the problem is sommer doesnt fit into chicken wings opponent schema (anymore)

Sommers has more panel time than imungunko, not comperable to the like of all stars

Also while npcham fulfills the criteria of nothing going on with the character beside his design like alot of zoro opponents he has so far not even a sword as the token sword opponent like pica
"trident" well than sommers club thing that can free transform counts too
Nah, Imu and Gunko combined have had the most screen time in the arc. Gunko was introduced with Shamrock, looking for Loki, trying to recruit him, then Gunko negged the SHP and took out Gaban. Imu has since:
been involved in Rocks´s death(we specifically have a highlight for the time the two first meet)
been involved in Haralds death(we specifically have a highlight of the time the two first meet, and Imu even sees Haralds apology)

Oda is just doing the weird slow pacing thing since the flashback ended where Imcel sort of just sits back, which is kind of a personality thing I guess.

Yeah, Killingham will maybe fight Sanji now I guess, and Sommers can create a sword to use against Zoro, which seems like an intentional switch up. I also think Sommers´s focus will be to build up for him to be the first CD to be killed in the story by normal humans.
 
#69
Sanji said it to him about kicking his helmet, he has ample of time to react lol.
Im making fun of the exact same situation that also happened with vensusjuro lmao
they argued he sneaked him from the front talking to him
Nah, Imu and Gunko combined have had the most screen time in the arc. Gunko was introduced with Shamrock, looking for Loki, trying to recruit him, then Gunko negged the SHP and took out Gaban. Imu has since:
been involved in Rocks´s death(we specifically have a highlight for the time the two first meet)
been involved in Haralds death(we specifically have a highlight of the time the two first meet, and Imu even sees Haralds apology)

Oda is just doing the weird slow pacing thing since the flashback ended where Imcel sort of just sits back, which is kind of a personality thing I guess.

Yeah, Killingham will maybe fight Sanji now I guess, and Sommers can create a sword to use against Zoro, which seems like an intentional switch up. I also think Sommers´s focus will be to build up for him to be the first CD to be killed in the story by normal humans.
I just dont agree the main villain in elbaf was so far narrativly potrayed sommers but we will see
 
#72
Tbh he didn’t expect Sanji to reach him so quickly. That’s why he was so shocked when Sanji suddenly appeared in front of him despite previously being on the ground below
That might be true, he is way too cocky. But he has mythical zoan and awakened, and he has bad reaction time than King's ancient zoan which isn't awakened really put his combat ability into perspective.
 
#73

I mean, Oda just isn´t going to make these underlings look good until their battles. Do you remember in Wano when King and Queen were getting tossed around by Marco in a 2v1? That was until we saw them actually fight, and it turns out they had all sorts of abilities we didn´t see?

Sommers and Killingham are supposed to replace Shamrocks presence on the island, and as dumb as the regen shit is, Oda has made it pretty clear through that, the weaker SHPs can´t exactly do anything here.

So we pretty clearly have:
M3 who can(hypothetically in Sanji´s case) fight the Gods Knights, and three Gods Knights. We´re about a year and a half into the arc, I honestly think it´ll be that simple. If Oda wanted to bring in more characters, why not have Imu bring them with him when Imu declares his plan to conquer the island? I´m pretty sure other characters arriving after Imu(the arc villain) would just be weird and kind of unprecedented.
Its not unprecedented when Imu himself isnt actually losing in any way that counts this arc lol. We all know this. Hes not physically on the island

We also havent actually gotten a matchup with this Gunko form yet, lets wait for that first.
 
#76
That might be true, he is way too cocky. But he has mythical zoan and awakened, and he has bad reaction time than King's ancient zoan which isn't awakened really put his combat ability into perspective.
He’s not a confirmed awakened zoan. His clouds are just like the one Yamato has as in they’re in all his forms so they don’t show awakening
 

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#77
I mean... that sword seemed to be very pointy
The biggest problem is that Rocks was at 1 HP while Dorry and Brogy seem to be full HP, with no proper explanation.

Now, I've seen some theorize that only wounds you receive during DR are reverted (and Rocks was quite badly hurt before that), or that CoC attacks are incurable (hence both Rocks and his family died), but I really don't like this power and the way it is portrayed.

I'm also not looking forward to DR Loki.
 
#79
I just dont agree the main villain in elbaf was so far narrativly potrayed sommers but we will see
We´re 1200 chaps in the manga bro. This shit isn´t that hard to catch:

Imu tricked and led to the downfall of King Harald:


You don´t have to be a genius to catch that this is similar to Doffy tricking King Riku,


or Kaido tricking Oden etc etc

Sommers isn´t that important. Everything with him is essentially just filler
 
#80
We´re 1200 chaps in the manga bro. This shit isn´t that hard to catch:

Imu tricked and led to the downfall of King Harald:


You don´t have to be a genius to catch that this is similar to Doffy tricking King Riku,


or Kaido tricking Oden etc etc

Sommers isn´t that important. Everything with him is essentially just filler
We had 1:1 the scene of ripley crying like bonney god nika punching the main villain, sommers, it was even his big entrance
 
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