Questions & Mysteries “Ryuma slayed niddhog/God of war” theory officially debunked

[Sentinel]

@Fn Lucci

Nidhogg was stated to be the largest dragon, not the only "Western Dragon."

Like many other users already pointed out, Loki's fruit was locked up since the 1st world. Nobody could touch it cuz of Ragnir. The God of War was a beast who even managed to fight off Nika. Ryuma is never, I repeat, never beating such an opponent with a single move. It's insane.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

that the Dragon was not a normal Dragon should be obvious, when its not Niddhog its something else special. you say sword swallowers like Oda did not hype Ryuma beyond anything

What even is a “normal dragon” in the world of OP lmfao. These things are so rare that Ryuma slaying a “normal dragon” would absolutely be a historical feat, how many dragons have we ever even heard of in the OP world that weren’t made by devil fruits, or weren’t the result of scientific meddling. These things are mythically rare, so yes Ryuma slaying some random inconsequential Wano dragon is absolutely 100% possible and 100% probable.

This is just like when people thought Akainu scarred Kaido lmfao, 100% improbable from the start. As soon as y’all realize Oda’s world is a bunch of completely disconnected worlds and histories plagiarized from irl mythologies, the sooner you see through his illusions. Oda will not cross Nordic and Japanese mythologies, name literally 1 other time in the history of the manga this has happened lol.

 

[Fn Lucci]

@Fn Lucci


Like many other users already pointed out, Loki's fruit was locked up since the 1st world. Nobody could touch it cuz of Ragnir. The God of War was a beast who even managed to fight off Nika.

In chapter 1175, there is no date given to any of the events described. We have no idea when any of this happened and we don't even know who the "Nika" was. We haven't seen Joyboy as Nika, whether that confirms or contradicts any of the Nika silhouettes we've seen.

 

[Sentinel]

We have no idea when any of this happened and we don't even know who the "Nika" was.

It's obviously the first Nika, who else should it be? Jarul would mention Joyboy if it was the 2nd world Nika.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Jarul would mention Joyboy if it was the 2nd world Nika.

When has Jarul mentioned Joyboy so far?

 

[Sentinel]

When has Jarul mentioned Joyboy so far?

Exactly, they always talk about "the Sun God" or do you think an ancient country such as Elbaf would only remember the warrior of liberation from the 2nd world?

 

[AER15]

It was a regular dragon and Ryuma isn't relevant to the story so no he wasn't Joyboy's secret lover who slayed Nidhogg flying over Wano

 

[Fn Lucci]

Oda will not cross Nordic and Japanese mythologies, name literally 1 other time in the history of the manga this has happened lol.

Oda's OP exclusive mythology runs connections throughout his entire world. Aside from that we have seen the merging of Roman and Japanese mythologies, so Nordic and Japanese isn't a stretch. Clearly, the Harley made references to Wano.

Exactly, they always talk about "the Sun God" or do you think an ancient country such as Elbaf would only remember the warrior of liberation from the 2nd world?

If they haven't said that Joyboy and Nika are mutually exclusive then I'm not going to assume how they'd see the difference. It's more likely that Jarul doesn't have knowledge of a Joyboy at all. Obviously, we know for a fact that Joyboy had the properties of Nika and Nika is connected to all three worlds within their mythology.

I personally have a hard time believing that Joyboy had nothing to do with Elbaf in his time, when we saw Emeth wearing the clothes of a Giant.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

The moment Gigabull was a confirmed black blade user, their agenda started to crumble. They now have to leech on whatever they can.

It was never confirmed. Greenbitch is nothing more than a bum.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

As always Zoro fans creating their own happiness, just to complaint when Oda doesn't feed their delusion.

 

[comrade]

It was never confirmed. Greenbitch is nothing more than a bum.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Oda's OP exclusive mythology runs connections throughout his entire world

No it doesn’t. Name literally one example of Oda crossing mythologies.

 

[Blax Blah]

No it doesn’t. Name literally one example of Oda crossing mythologies.

I suppose with Nika, who is based on christianity ( Kuma had a Bible and seemingly worshipped Nika, in Kuma's church there was a cross and a Nika sun symbol, in the Bible Jesus has a glorified body that has white hair and white clothes, and other things )

 

[Fn Lucci]

No it doesn’t. Name literally one example of Oda crossing mythologies.

Neptune, Poseidon, Otohime, Tatamebako, and Ryugyu all in Fishman Island. FI and Elbaf are both tied to Nika, as are other races

 

[TheD.]

Again even for people coping saying Ryuma was from old wano, Him fighting against pirates proves that he was atleast after the void century to some extent.

also Ryuma being from the void century anyway would be thousands of years off from the God of wars time of reign.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Neptune, Poseidon, Otohime, Tatamebako, and Ryugyu all in Fishman Island. FI and Elbaf are both tied to Nika, as are other races

No, you aren’t understanding the point I’m making. Oda has never crossed mythologies of Alabasta and Fishman Island, Oda has never crossed the mythologies of Dressrosa and Water 7. These are all completely disconnected islands with their own independent histories. Nidhogg has never been to Wano as Elbaph and Wano will not have intertwined histories.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Again even for people coping saying Ryuma was from old wano, Him fighting against pirates proves that he was atleast after the void century to some extent.

also Ryuma being from the void century anyway would be thousands of years off from the God of wars time of reign.

Good point about pirates, that nails down a window for Ryuma. Where does it say the last time that the god of war was seen, or how long Ragnir had been waiting before Loki?

 

[Fn Lucci]

No, you aren’t understanding the point I’m making. Oda has never crossed mythologies of Alabasta and Fishman Island, Oda has never crossed the mythologies of Dressrosa and Water 7. These are all completely disconnected islands with their own independent histories. Nidhogg has never been to Wano as Elbaph and Wano will not have intertwined histories.

I will add that obviously these countries are connected as they share poneglyphs and the legend of Nika, but you asked me to name literally one example of Oda crossing mythologies.

If you can't acknowledge that, then I don't see the point of wasting my time as you're going to move the goalpost.

 

[TheD.]

Good point about pirates, that nails down a window for Ryuma. Where does it say the last time that the god of war was seen, or how long Ragnir had been waiting before Loki?

Atleast pre void century, Elbaf mythology is from tens of thousands of years ago.

It was so long Ago that even jarul said it took an eternity for ragnir to Find a rightful weilder. Would be weird if an “eternity” from jaruls perspective was only 400 years before he was born.

 

[gz89]

Cruxroux disease has spread throughout the temple