Questions & Mysteries “Ryuma slayed niddhog/God of war” theory officially debunked

[Fn Lucci]

It was so long Ago that even jarul said it took an eternity for ragnir to Find a rightful weilder. Would be weird if an “eternity” from jaruls perspective was only 400 years before he was born.

The Giants live about three times as long as humans from what we see, but that doesn't necessarily change their perspective on time. For example, a younger Giant like Hajrudin wouldn't necessarily see God Valley as a recent event even though his body hasn't aged much.

I don't expect the Japanese line to use the word "eternity" even if it is obviously hyperbolic, but I'd be curious to know what it said.

Also, while I cut out the first part of your post because of how difficult it is to speculate, Volume 113 SBS gave us something like 6,000 years as a very round number for recorded history thus far. I'm curious about how Viz will translate.

 

[Dragon777]

this whole thing can be easily debunked by the fact that they build a new capital after they old one flooded, Ryuma being part of new Wano makes 0 sense, he was there when the borders were open aka old wano. trying to argue when he was active is pointless we have exactly 0 infos about anything

But the old one was flooded after/during the void century.

Ryuma also lived his whole life in "new Wano" and was born in new Wano.

 

[TheD.]

The Giants live about three times as long as humans from what we see, but that doesn't necessarily change their perspective on time. For example, a younger Giant like Hajrudin wouldn't necessarily see God Valley as a recent event even though his body hasn't aged much.

I don't expect the Japanese line to use the word "eternity" even if it is obviously hyperbolic, but I'd be curious to know what it said.

Also, while I cut out the first part of your post because of how difficult it is to speculate, Volume 113 SBS gave us something like 6,000 years as a very round number for recorded history this far. I'm curious about how Viz will translate.

The Giants live about three times as long as humans from what we see, but that doesn't necessarily change their perspective on time. For example, a younger Giant like Hajrudin wouldn't necessarily see God Valley as a recent event even though his body hasn't aged much.

I don't expect the Japanese line to use the word "eternity" even if it is obviously hyperbolic, but I'd be curious to know what it said.

Also, while I cut out the first part of your post because of how difficult it is to speculate, Volume 113 SBS gave us something like 6,000 years as a very round number for recorded history thus far. I'm curious about how Viz will translate.

which is incorrect giants do see time differently from humans

 

[comrade]

Ryuma fought pirates and world nobles, this isn't even the second World but the third world, lol. When the WG was literally formed after the events of the void century.

So being alive during the end of the void century is the most we can give him, and that's being generous.

 

[Fn Lucci]

which is incorrect giants do see time differently from humans

Obviously, 30 years would be a very long time for humans to fight in a duel with no conclusion. You are mistaking their concept of time for their concept of battle.

 

[TheD.]

Obviously, 30 years would be a very long time for humans to fight in a duel with no conclusion. You are mistaking their concept of time for their concept of battle.

Stop Coping dude it’s getting you nowhere

 

[Loki D. Terror]

As I said in the other thread - Different color (opposite color) , different design , different timelines , different size.

 

[TheD.]

And btw Ryuma slayed a dragon in the flower capital, which is in new wano so he’s not from old wano which means he’s not from the void century.

@Fn Lucci

you debating trying to say giants see time like humans would actually prove my theory even more correct as that would mean the God of war has a normal giant lifespan which is most like the case.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Oda can retcon Ryuma's timeline.
Or he can use his ancestor as slayer of war god.

lmao
funny that nobody ever mentions this ancestor that killed a god tier, because reasons

 

[TheD.]

Oda can retcon Ryuma's timeline.
Or he can use his ancestor as slayer of war god.
Shimotsuki spread is already hinting at this.
Flames, dragon and red-haired Shimotsuki from, probably, 1st world.

Sounds like some extreme asspull and bullshit to hype up a A debunked event lol.

atleast with God of war he was a real being that fought nika and is renown as a real deity in elbaf religion.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Stop Coping dude it’s getting you nowhere

Oh, great point lol. I guess you're really not interested in actually saying why this is wrong. How did you get played in your own thread?

And btw Ryuma slayed a dragon in the flower capital, which is in new wano so he’s not from old wano which means he’s not from the void century.

@Fn Lucci

you debating trying to say giants see time like humans would actually prove my theory even more correct as that would mean the God of war has a normal giant lifespan which is most like the case.

The god of war having a normal Giant lifespan (keeping in mind that Jarul is proportionate to Kureha and these are NOT normal by our definitions) doesn't refute anything I've stated, whether it supports your suggestions or not.

We know that the "earth god raged" in the first world and that Joyboy lost during the Void Century. It's very understandable if the conclusion is that Nika died twice during these events. How and when the god of war died isn't known, and how old he was at the time is irrelevant this far. Whether Ryuma died at 47 or 67 wouldn't have mattered either, for example.

 

[TheD.]

Oh, great point lol. I guess you're really not interested in actually saying why this is wrong. How did you get played in your own thread?

You didn’t play anyone instead of trying to take fact as fact you wanan keep adding headcannon points like a Toddler lol

“their grasp of war is different so they experience time of war differently” which is insane cope lol.

The god of war having a normal Giant lifespan (keeping in mind that Jarul is proportionate to Kureha and these are NOT normal by our definitions) doesn't refute anything I've stated, whether it supports your suggestions or not.

We know that the "earth god raged" in the first world and that Joyboy lost during the Void Century. It's very understandable if the conclusion is that Nika died twice during these events. How and when the god of war died isn't known, and how old he was at the time is irrelevant this far. Whether Ryuma died at 47 or 67 wouldn't have mattered either, for example.

It absolutely would matter lol as Ryuma clearly did not live thousands of years ago meaning those two never met.

 

[Rumble]

It never needed debunking.

Ryuuma was alive 400 years ago.

Jarul is over 400 years old.

The Nidhoggr DF hadn’t been consumed for many generations of kings.

Only retards and sword swallowers couldn’t put 2 and 2 together.

 

[JJtheman]

Onigashimas skull is also way fucking bigger than the god of war Nika fought and His horns look nothing alike.

 

[HA001]

Onigashimas skull is also way fucking bigger than the god of war Nika fought and His horns look nothing alike.

Hybrid form

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Hybrid form

even if that were true the timelines still don't match up and i'm pretty sure we'd be told that ryuma killed the god of war lol

 

[comrade]

Hybrid form

Hybrid is smaller than zoan and the skull is way too big even for Zoan proportions.

 

[HA001]

Hybrid is smaller than zoan and the skull is way too big even for Zoan proportions.

Nah the war god in base would be bigger than loki

 

[HA001]

even if that were true the timelines still don't match up and i'm pretty sure we'd be told that ryuma killed the god of war lol

Was never stated when the god of war died giants live way longer

 

[Fn Lucci]

You didn’t play anyone instead of trying to take fact as fact you wanan keep adding headcannon points like a Toddler lol

“their grasp of war is different so they experience time of war differently” which is insane cope lol.

Yes or no: would it be surprising if two humans fought for 30 years?

It absolutely would matter lol as Ryuma clearly did not live thousands of years ago meaning those two never met.

There was a first world Nika and a second world Nika. You'd have to just rule out the possibility of a god of war circa the Void Century and I'm not sure what indicates that you should.

And if you did, the oldest possibility is that the god of war was born at the very beginning of history 6000 years ago. Assuming that, if he died 5500 years ago or 5600 years ago will not matter.

Onigashimas skull is also way fucking bigger than the god of war Nika fought and His horns look nothing alike.

There is currently no explanation for why anyone would be that big. So far, it doesn't make sense. I'm not saying it was the god of war myself, but I do think it's an interesting coincidence that this DF power gives its user the ability to dwarf ancient Giants.