Questions & Mysteries “Ryuma slayed niddhog/God of war” theory officially debunked

I think he probably was from the void century, just because there’s not really a better place to put him. We know Wano was relevant in the void century. Is Oda just going to create some random new samurai who will be Joyboy’s ally? Doesn’t make sense.
His ally would obviously be the Kozuki, who ruled Wano and made the RP´s, even with their descendants having the VOAT
 
Oda could have done something with Zoro´s heritage and Ryuma, but he didn´t in the four years of Wano. Oda pretty just made a reference to his one shot and did nothing with it. There´s a reason that Oden, Kaido and King didn´t talk about Ryuma, but Joyboy instead, it´s because Oda has Joyboy being relevant in the future plot of the manga when Ryuma isn´t. That isn´t to say that we should assume he´s weak, but thinking that we´ll get huge lore drops about him in Elbaf after not doing so in Wano isn´t happening. Oda just isnt that guy, his goal at this point is probably rushing for an ending, not explaining every little thing he didn´t do in previous arcs
There is good chance a new more ancient swordsman is revealed to us belonging to joyboy's era and his crewmate. Ryuma is pretty irrelevant in comparison.
 
Hammer changes size
The massive sword on elbaf is the god of wars
Ragnir doesn’t have the ability to change sizes
From what we have seen
As Loki doesn’t even weild ragnir when he’s transformed or in his hybrid state.


Ragnir shrinkinng down tens of thousands of times also wouldn’t make sense this isn’t the case with odens sword which only shrunk around 2-3 times its original size ragnir would be the size of wano realistically by your standards.

Just give it up every time you reply it makes even less and less sense just to defend this theory.
 
There is good chance a new more ancient swordsman is revealed to us belonging to joyboy's era and his crewmate. Ryuma is pretty irrelevant in comparison.
Also, I don't see why it should be a prominent ally not simply someone there.
Yeah, idk why people have convinced themselves that Oda is interested in lore building in and of itself. He´s not suddenly going to become Jrr Tolkien and build three eras with three different complicated lores and release it.

The VC flashback is probably going to be a full year as opposed to the Loki flashback being like half a year. It´ll build up Imu, Davy Jones and Joyboy, whoever the giant is of that era, the ancient weapons/Kingdom, and that´s pretty much it. The flashbacks don´t really ever have much importance beyond hyping up the villain of that arc. Oda isn´t going to create a conflict between Ryuma and some Elbaf giant because it simply won´t advance the plot.
 
Also ryuma was on wano when the borders ARE OPEN

In monsters he is a wandering samurai in a WESTERN villiage NOT on wano
Stated to be travelling (chasing his own rep)
Already has a black balde by then so all of wano would know him
LEAVING CLOSED WANO IS TABOO
Ryuma is a hero on wano.

Him being buried in new wano means nothing AS HE IS THEIR SWORD GOD THEY WOULD MOVE HIS GRAVE
this seems desperate bro :josad::frodohug:
 
Problem is zori fans think just because ryuma lived in ancient era, he's god tier and in the same league as joyboy, davy jones, god of war etc, when that's not the case.
They´re going to cope when it turns out Imu doesn´t really comment or point out that he looks like an ancient enemy nor will he care about his heritage do for Teach/Rocks.
 
They´re going to cope when it turns out Imu doesn´t really comment or point out that he looks like an ancient enemy nor will he care about his heritage do for Teach/Rocks.
We already have that
Pinzoro jr. is a ryumor copy and he has 0 reaction to him, he already saw all strawhats

They just ignore that cause they cant cope anymore, they just look at you like this
 
We already have that
Pinzoro jr. is a ryumor copy and he has 0 reaction to him, he already saw all strawhats

They just ignore that cause they cant cope anymore, they just look at you like this
Yeah, the entire schizo theory about DR Loki being the main fight of the arc is only because Zoro can´t do anything to the actual arc villain(Imu) anyway.
 
Also ryuma was on wano when the borders ARE OPEN

In monsters he is a wandering samurai in a WESTERN villiage NOT on wano
Stated to be travelling (chasing his own rep)
Already has a black balde by then so all of wano would know him
LEAVING CLOSED WANO IS TABOO
Ryuma is a hero on wano.

Him being buried in new wano means nothing AS HE IS THEIR SWORD GOD THEY WOULD MOVE HIS GRAVE
Firstly, disturbing a grave is extremely disrespectful. Especially of someone so revered.

Secondly, the reason Ryuma's body was able to be a zombie even tho he has been dead for centuries and should be dust by now and should have no skin or muscles at all is, because of the extreme cold of ringo where he was buried.

Ringo is a location in new wano. it is not a location of old wano.
And flower capital is also a location in new wano.

To claim that ryuma was from lower wano, you have to jump through a lot of hoops and headcanon a lot of stuff like the old wano clowns digging up the grave of their revered hero, his corpse being well preserved even tho the old wano most likely had different climate and most likely did not have a ringo, and old wano having a flower capital.

And there's also that old databook sketch from oda that shows Ryuma lived 400 years ago. You retards love using databooks so much.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Firstly, disturbing a grave is extremely disrespectful. Especially of someone so revered.

Secondly, the reason Ryuma's body was able to be a zombie even tho he has been dead for centuries and should be dust by now and should have no skin or muscles at all is, because of the extreme cold of ringo where he was buried.

Ringo is a location in new wano. it is not a location of old wano.
And flower capital is also a location in new wano.

To claim that ryuma was from lower wano, you have to jump through a lot of hoops and headcanon a lot of stuff like the old wano clowns digging up the grave of their revered hero, his corpse being well preserved even tho the old wano most likely had different climate and most likely did not have a ringo, and old wano having a flower capital.

And there's also that old databook sketch from oda that shows Ryuma lived 400 years ago. You retards love using databooks so much.
There is one detail that you are missing here, Mono-chin...
The new Wano existed even during old Wano.
It just wasnt used as a place where most people lived because lower levels were habitable.
It doesnt exclude the possibility that Ryuma lived in Ringo even back then.
Just because Sun world isn't flooded, it doesnt mean nobody lives in Heaven world sorta thing, if you catch my drift...
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