[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

[Flower]

Judge Ginger on play btw. Lie detect immunity is a thing in SRM and so is invest tampering. Charlie was allowed to get a result if he’s the Cop, so that’s usually a sign he was being tampered with.

 

[gingerbread]

Well if we have protections that's okay, but if it turns out we don't, then such kills could point at scum being amongst townread people who should die but they don't.

It's not massively damning, as such townpeople might have been left alive because they townread some deepscum too, but that's a possibility.

I don't think Flower is scum here*, so maybe this points at TAG. TAG should also wonder a bit why he's still alive



*unless... Orca is also scum and she just swapped wagon from scum to scum. Maybe also because Orca has more important scumrole. But I see it as unlikely right now. Also Reloaded was on the table.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

And Cryo, I've been questioning Orca's mech just as much as TAG I think, and you again unpair Tag and Orca for this but not me I think? Indeed selective logic :p

Like, I think we had that convo before, but I can quote you actual stuff. I'm writing this not because I demand to be townread but prodding your logic.

Wdym? I unpaired both u and TAG from Orca for the mech. It’s why I’m towning Orca at all bc it leads to Orca not being on a possible scum team

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

@Ratchet But basically my solving process was this:

take the ppl I think are town
Charlie
Hayumi
PB
Hime
BTAM
Reloaded
Me

there’s 1players left and I know I’m town
So POE is
York
Ratchet
Cal
Orca
TAG
Flower
BS
GB

i used my combinations calculator on planetcalc.com to list out all 56 possible teams

I used the notes of all the unpairings I found to remove any teams that had the unpaired ppl listed as partners

I repeated the process until only one team remained

No offence, but I don't trust your unpairings. You are applying them *very* selectively, and for reasons that I consider... not particularly deep.

I don't claim that my own unpairing reads are 100% accurate, but I trust them much more than yours. And not because I don't think yours come from a place of town, but because your application is flawed.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

Judge Ginger on play btw. Lie detect immunity is a thing in SRM and so is invest tampering. Charlie was allowed to get a result if he’s the Cop, so that’s usually a sign he was being tampered with.

How can you tamper that’s not a bus drive or redirect lol

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

Judge Ginger on play btw. Lie detect immunity is a thing in SRM and so is invest tampering. Charlie was allowed to get a result if he’s the Cop, so that’s usually a sign he was being tampered with.

It could also mean Charlie was protected.

After all, you *did* state that you expected scum to have multiple KP, right? So perhaps Melkor and Charlie were both targets for kills, but Charlie was saved.

 

[Charlie]

Ahh you checked me? I missed that. Didn't catch up everything and just skimmed. Thanks Charlie.

Unlocked lie detect after 3rd cycle. I tried to check Crying but he didn't really say he's town once. I mean, he did say literally "i'm town" but it was him repeating someone else's words and wouldn't count.

So it was you or Reloaded. Finally settled on you because i saw Polar saying you're next if yoho flips scum and wanted to make sure there's no mislynch

 

[Charlie]

It could also mean Charlie was protected.

After all, you *did* state that you expected scum to have multiple KP, right? So perhaps Melkor and Charlie were both targets for kills, but Charlie was saved.

If they had that many killshots they would be using them more often i feel like.

 

[gingerbread]

Commute Self(Night 3)

Isn't commute a scum associated ability usually? It protects from everything right?

I'm asking role experts, but I once was a SK and I had commute, I wanted to claim that, but I found some 2023 OLF game where people were saying that commute is almost always hostile so I fake claimed

 

[Ratchet]

Yoho was the first player I sussed when I repped in, but also I pretty much led the lynch there yesterday

I mean I dont think you're scum but I was more in why crying specifically went as far as to say that alone was unpairing.

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

Unlocked lie detect after 3rd cycle. I tried to check Crying but he didn't really say he's town once. I mean, he did say literally "i'm town" but it was him repeating someone else's words and wouldn't count.

So it was you or Reloaded. Finally settled on you because i saw Polar saying you're next if yoho flips scum and wanted to make sure there's no mislynch

Can I ask why you didn't use your lie-detector on me? I *know* I've said that I'm town (see my post about the vegan rocky-road), and yesterday you were showing ample amounts of paranoia about me. Would it not have been beneficial for your own peace of mind to check me instead of gingerbread?

(Yes, I do accept that due to Polar saying ginger was next you wanted to avoid a ML, but was your town-read on ginger stronger than your paranoia on me yesterday?)

 

[Charlie]

Outside of your mech on Polar and Hayumi, what do you think of their actual content/posts?

Both i thought were scummy, thus i decided to check them. I've made a concious choice to just assume they're Town until we get at least 2 more scum lynched.

 

[gingerbread]

Unlocked lie detect after 3rd cycle. I tried to check Crying but he didn't really say he's town once. I mean, he did say literally "i'm town" but it was him repeating someone else's words and wouldn't count.

So it was you or Reloaded. Finally settled on you because i saw Polar saying you're next if yoho flips scum and wanted to make sure there's no mislynch

Heh cool, I wasn't even aware I said "I'm town" this game lul

 

[Ratchet]

Isn't commute a scum associated ability usually? It protects from everything right?

I'm asking role experts, but I once was a SK and I had commute, I wanted to claim that, but I found some 2023 OLF game where people were saying that commute is almost always hostile so I fake claimed

Largely NAI here.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

No offence, but I don't trust your unpairings. You are applying them *very* selectively, and for reasons that I consider... not particularly deep.

I don't claim that my own unpairing reads are 100% accurate, but I trust them much more than yours. And not because I don't think yours come from a place of town, but because your application is flawed.

Ok

my process should be somewhat repeatable

start with all the ppl you think are confidently townreading. For you I assume that’s Charlie GB PB Hayumi + whoever

make a POE

make a list of all possible teams of 5 using this website https://planetcalc.com/3757/ and download the excel file / if u want I can make the possible list for u. Then u remove any team with unpaired ppl

if you are correct in all your town reads AND unpairings, u will find just via POE the correct scum team

 

[gingerbread]

Polar says I'm next? I remember him saying he'd vote Anime Poyser til rest of the game because of Rabbit Pot lim

@Polar Bear elaborate

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

How can you tamper that’s not a bus drive or redirect lol

Godfather always investigates favorably

 

[bittersweet]

Hmm, I still think the way to go today would be Orca. I think he could be scum aligned with Yoho.

Getting to the point of having to throw darts at a wall and see where it sticks now.

How many mislynches can we afford as town right now?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Or actually @ThatAverageGuy if u want send me your confident trs and your unpairings and I’ll do it for u

 

[ThatAverageGuy]

if you are correct in all your town reads AND unpairings, u will find just via POE the correct scum team

That's exactly my point.

Your unpairings are incorrect. You're clearing some players from being paired on certain conditions which you're outright ignoring for other players.

Case in point, bittersweet being perpetually in my PoE in the same way that Cal has been perpetually in Orca's.

The big difference is that I have been pestering the everloving crap out of bitter to try and get him to either show himself as town or trip himself up as scum, to the point where I've incurred The Wrath of Flower several times.