Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1179: THE ADVENT OF NERONA IMU

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How do you explain Imu’s covenants being named after the sea though? And his goal being to flood the lower world?

Shirahoshi being the Sea God doesn’t really make sense to me because the Harley text confirmed that the Sea God flooded the world, which would be the result of all the Ancient Weapons and not just Poseidon.

Imu is the Sea God imo, based on his pacts, his goal of flooding the world, and him being fought in the middle of the sea in the mural.

Teach is the Earth God. The Earth God left the world in “darkness and destruction,” which sounds just like Teach’s 2 DFs. And the Earth God having an earthquake DF would make sense.

The Forest God is Chopper, who can tame demons (as shown by him expelling demons out of the giants, and diseases in the past were considered a result of demonic influence, so it can tie in with his role as a doctor who wants to cure all diseases. Obviously Chopper won’t ever be nearly as strong as Luffy, BB, or Imu, but it was our mistake to assume the Forest God must be on par with those 3, it’s simply just a less important god. Also, forests are nourished by the Sun, so the Forest God serving under the Sun God makes sense
To each there own but I dont agree with this. Arent you the one claiming Shamrock is/has the Hellflame Serpent power lol? Why would he be tied to Teach of all things then?

How would controlling Sea Kings even let you raise the global sea level tho?
How else does her power destroy the world then? They literally talk about it in Fishman Island.
 

Fujishiro

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Honestly throwing out my guesses for the 4 God's now. Imu stabs 3 pictures, which makes me think he's 1 one of the 4 who hates the other 3. Imu also looks like Nika, which strongly suggests the same thing.

- Luffy is Nika, the Sun God
- Imu is the Devil (might have a real name), the Earth God. I say Earth because the notion of it having a Hellflame Serpent goes hand in hand with Devil and it being the reason Nika died in the 1st world. Not to mention being Earth goes back to Egghead theories about the Gorosei and Ancient Weapons all being planets who revolve around him.
- Teach is probably the Forest God. "Taming demons" sounds very akin to how he can consume more than one power. To me I get homonculous type vibes from him. This might be why his Darkness fruit doesnt act like a Logia, because its not one. Either this or he has a 3rd fruit he's hiding related to it.
- The Sea God is Shirahoshi, Poseidon. Yes, shes both an ancient weapon and this god, which might explain why the power to control sea kings is generational. It doesnt follow Devil Fruits, it follows a specific lineage of mermaids.

I think this, thematically, goes along with everything we know so far in the story. Loki's powers seem to fall along with or under Nika's, just given the history of Nidhogg and Nika. Plus, his bounty and Luffy's literally add to 5.6 billion lol....

Basically Nidhogg might be to Nika what the Hellflame Serpent is to Imu/Devil.

Now you have my guess on this for real @Shiroyru. This chapter actually helped in small ways. Maybe Shamrock is that Serpent given his beef with Loki.
Yep, Imu is the earth god. I made a whole thread about it let me go get it.
 

Fujishiro

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The Dragon/Earth god and the winged individual on the left are the same entity.

Think of the Dragon as the full Zoan transformation, and the winged individual as the hybrid form.

Both have two horns and wings.

The winged individual holding the sun is probably Imu using the mother flame, the mother flame was probably destroyed or rendered inoperative after the war hence why hes trying to make a new one because the war isnt over as Nika keeps coming back to free the world from the earth gods tyrany. Now the question is if Imu is the original earth god or a vessel like Luffy is to Nika, that is open for interpretation. I think Imu was born in the secon world and inheritted the earth god's powers.

Imu gives people immortality, regen and just powers them up, that is literally something a devil will be able to do. Sabo said that he didnt imagine that the top of the world was actually hell itself, this is after seeing the Gorosei and Imu transform.

Basically the eternal enemy of Nika is the earth god who had humanity enslaved, the serpent is an ally of the earth god.

I think Blackbeard will either ally with Luffy to fight Imu or pull a zetsu and steal his powers but imo it would be bad writting and isnt really foreshadowed in the prophecy at all.

This is basically a story of earth god vs Nika.

@Paperchampion23 I was only wrong about Loki being the Dragon instead of it being Imu but yeah.​
 
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